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Agreed, Kobe vs. Wade is a tough call.
Closer than people like to give Wade credit for. Biggest knock on Wade is longevity. He had a relativly short prime tbh. His body deteriorated on him pretty quickly.
I agree with this post.
Agreed, Kobe vs. Wade is a tough call.
Closer than people like to give Wade credit for. Biggest knock on Wade is longevity. He had a relativly short prime tbh. His body deteriorated on him pretty quickly.
I can agree with this. Killa one of the more sensible Lakers posters on the site.
8 might be a touch too high, but 10-15 sounds about right.
He and Wade are close at SG I think. LOL at the dumb asses saying Harden>Kobe though
12 gonna 12
Looks like there's another thread exposing Kobe:
would take manu, wade over him.
His relevance is more as a pop icon rather than one of the best players of all time. Someone like Duncan wasn't a pop icon and whenever you hear of him now it's due to him being one of the best players to ever play the game.
The fact we still see them shows his relevance ...
Wow!!!!!
I see Spur fan still eating Frosted Flakes with Kobe's ...
all that bull can be easily refuted point by point...no sane person even cares at this point. You losers are pathetic. and the most pathetic of them all are Clipper Nation and Chuco...them cats are sip Kobe out the baby bottle.
A "Laker fan" with over 40k post on a Spursfan board calling others pathetic and losers
Never change got.
Kobe could have been great if he wasn't such a selfish got tbh
harden is the most fundamentally skilled SG to ever play the game though. if he had the physique and athleticism of a kobe/mj he'd be right there with lebron in GOAT potential tbqh
this is still aliveson where's the gay cartoons at?
tbh tbh tbh tbh.
Kobe had a post-up game and made 12 all-defensive teams, though
LOL Spurs board guzzling Lebron thread after thread when you already have an all time great better than him in Duncan.A "Laker fan" with over 40k post on a Spursfan board calling others pathetic and losers
Never change got.
So the travel stepback = fundamentals lol
post up game ?
midrange game?
man2man defense?
help defense?
switch defense?
leadership?
scoring under physical defense?
comparing harden with kobe
jordan would average 40 in this league tbh, not even joking smh.
unlikely
there are far more legit wing players in todays league, along with no more illegal defenses
he would not only have to face far better defenders/athletes/schemes, he would have to work much harder on defense, whether guarding wings like Lebron/KD/Harden/Kawhi, keeping up with guards like Steph/CP3/Russ, or chasing around guys like Korver/Klay/Beal through 10 screens each possession. much harder for him to conserve energy by hiding on defense than in his day, especially without the size to be able to play as a hybrid center the way guys like Lebron and KD can, and focus on team defense with their length and athletic ability.
40 bricks per game, sure.
he would not only have to face far better defenders/athletes/schemes athletes don't make defenders, look at the horrible defense played these playoffs, and a no-middle basic scheme was being played even in the 70s so just lol at better schemes. also look at what lebron is doing and compare his first step and footwork to MJs, who had historically elite first step + footwork. Jordan would destroy without handchecking, he'd absolutely terrorize defenses. Also compare the undersized and soft centers of today's game to what you had in the 80s ... jordan would live in the paint in today's game.
he would have to work much harder on defense jordan was dpoy in an era of great centers, he played with a ferocity that would get him multiple T1s per game under today's rules, and his first step allowed him to be ultra aggressive without giving position away. He played in a physical era where defending meant taking a beating .. tbh you don't know what you're talking about here smh, jordan is a top 5 perimeter defender of all time and this era is all about perimeter defense.
whether guarding wings like Lebron/KD/Harden/Kawhi, keeping up with guards like Steph/CP3/Russ, or chasing around guys like Korver/Klay/Beal through 10 screens each possession. guarding lebron don't think so (too big), guarding kd/harden yes he'd make these s cry, kawai would be an easy guard for him. jordan has a faster first step than all of steph/cp3/russ while being a superior athlete, with superior size/reach/explosion/strength/aggression. he'd be an amazing defender in this era, as his foot speed and lane play would do much better than in the 80s. different rules also mean that he'd roam much more.
much harder for him to conserve energy by hiding on defense than in his day, especially without the size to be able to play as a hybrid center the way guys like Lebron and KD can, and focus on team defense with their length and athletic ability son no sane team would attack jordan non stop, that would be a low percentage shot against a historical athlete capable of playing heavy minutes at max intensity. Also jordan's off-ball defense would massively shine in this undersized centerless lax-rule era. Sure lebron and kd have the size but in terms of BPG jordan is equivalent. also do not forget that jordan played in a handcheck era which guaranteed a much higher energy consumption than this soft era. He'd be more than up to running around instead of muscling it out every possession.
Now compare jordan's ability of getting in the lane in halfcourt compared to lebron and kd and you'll see why he'd be a monster in this era, there is no team that could keep him out of the lane. He'd also get calls like harden so there's that.
In this era jordan would be harden + goat athleticism + goat defense + goat aggressiveness/alphaness + goat post game - elite 3p shooting + goat slashing + goat mind games + goat workethic (he'd get a good 3p shot guaranteed). Harden is dropping 32 a game right now ... there is no doubt in my mind that Jordan could drop 40 a game in this era, and I'm not even that much of a fan of Dad killer tbh, it's the fact that this era is absolutely perfect for jordan.
son please you weren't even born when that was revolutionizing the game.
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