NBA: Coaching really doesn't matter

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[midnightpulp]

Damn, you're stupid.

It's mindboggling. "Non-existent role." Let's look up Ozzie Smith.

Hmmm, had a year where he added 5 wins through defense alone. For comparison, Sammy Sosa added 6.3 wins on offense when he hit 66 homeruns, hit .308, and drove in a 158 runs

"Defensive plays a non-existent role."

Sure, good defense can almost equal one of the best offensive seasons in recent history

[DAF86]

Just replied (through a mention) in my latest. And I can hit you with a load of quantifiable metrics that illustrate just how many runs good defense saves and how many extra wins it produces to further debunk yet another one of your idiotic takes about a sport you "learned" about playing video games (lol).

I'm interested on reading how those "quantifiable metrics" are measured, tbh.

[midnightpulp]

And there we have it again. Mid doing what he calls out other folks for doing, "overthinking" sports.

Overthinking? Are you a in' re ? Do you "overthink" basketball when you look at Kawhi's defensive metrics to see his impact on that end? Do you overthink basketball when you check the stats to see how many points the Spurs turnover rate might be costing them? I'm citing in' crystal clear data, not making some vague interpretation about a play. Nice attempt at a deflection, though. Just own your ty takes or admit you have clue what you're talking about since your only experience with baseball is playing Wii Sports and watching Bonds highlights.

[midnightpulp]

I'm interested on reading how those "quantifiable metrics" are measured, tbh.

Now the metrics aren't "accurate" and up for speculation since they don't confirm your silly opinion. This is despite baseball analytics being the best on the planet and influencing the NBA and NFL's Front Offices. I think it's time to stop posting now.

[DAF86]

Now the metrics aren't "accurate" and up for speculation since they don't confirm your silly opinion. This is despite baseball analytics being the best on the planet and influencing the NBA and NFL's Front Offices. I think it's time to stop posting now.

Why so defensive son? I just want to know how they come up with those numbers to see if they are Indeed "not accurate". Maybe they are. I just have a real interest on knowing how they can come up with such numbers, tbh.

[midnightpulp]

Why so defensive son? I just want to know how they come up with those numbers to see if they are Indeed "not accurate". Maybe they are. I just have a real interest on knowing how they can come up with such numbers, tbh.

I'm not defensive, more like irritated. You constantly look for ways to get out of changing or owning a dumb opinion when you're flat out wrong. at you determining if the stats are accurate or not. MLB FOs (or NBA) are always looking for analytics gurus, so if you're that confident in your knowledge of statistics, maybe you should send in a resume. That said, the metrics are actually more straightforward than a metric like DRPM (uses Bayesian inference, which can be subjective; the creators admit as such) or DBPM and on/off. However, I trust these metrics for the most part nonetheless.


Simple definition:

Fielding percentage is the statistic that has traditionally been used to measure defensive ability, but it fails to account of a fielder's range.[B] Fielders with ample range on defense are able to make plays that most players would not have the chance to make. Defensive Runs Saved was created to take into account range when measuring a player's defensive ability. To calculate Defensive Runs Saved, for each ball hit, points are either added or subtracted to the fielder's rating depending on whether or not they make the play. For example, if a ball hit to the center fielder is expected to be caught 30 percent of the time, and it is caught, the fielder gains 0.7 points. If the center fielder does not catch the ball, he loses 0.3 points.

The formula
DRS uses Baseball Info Solutions data to chart where each ball is hit. Say, for instance, a center fielder sprints to make a nice catch on a fly ball. Then, say data from BIS tells us that similar fly balls get caught 60 percent of the time. That center fielder gains, essentially, 0.4 bonus points for difficulty. If he can't make the play, he loses 0.6 points. At the end of the day, that player's overall score gets adjusted to the league average -- and then that score gets adjusted for how many runs the once-adjusted score is worth.

Why it's useful
Because errors and assists barely scratch the surface of what makes a successful defender, DRS exists to help better value defenders for their range, positioning and first step.

Let's look at this play:

https://www.mlb.com/video/statcast-b...?tid=240568594

34% catch probability, meaning that is a sure hit 66% of the time that will most likely fall for a double. How much is a double worth in a no-outs situation?



A little over a run. So by making that catch, he saved about .70 of a run. His play was as valuable as if he hit a one out double as a batter. On the flip side, if a player muffs an 80% likely catch that turns into a no-out double with no men on, he cost his team about .85 of run.

[Fabbs]

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[midnightpulp]

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How 'bout det Bedorisan, Fabbs?

[Fabbs]

How 'bout det Bedorisan, Fabbs?

stoopid phuck Skosha is gonna burn Otani out of how many wins? He's already done three, I think all three by his boyfriend Bedrosian.

[midnightpulp]

stoopid phuck Skosha is gonna burn Otani out of how many wins? He's already done three, I think all three by his boyfriend Bedrosian.