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    And you think this doesn't happen on every team? I would even say its much worse on other teams.
    That's why I prefaced my comment with my armchair assessment of Kawhi's mental state - hyper-coachable until a single issue of trust surfaces. He probably had a bone to pick over how he was handled in the playoffs last year as well. Tony freezing him out for years didn't do any favors to team chemistry, and when Tony spoke up, confirmation bias told Kawhi Tony is a got. He's a binary thinker.
    Guys get hurt all the time; guys play hurt all the time. Sometimes its the team that pressures you to play and sometimes your own teammates. It's just the nature of the business. Chicken got paid big to play a kid's game--you left your teammates hanging and turned your back on the organization that made you because your disingenuous lying sack of uncle is only looking out to line his own pockets. Damn straight the should be talking --they should talk and talk straight to his face but then again he's to pussy for even that.
    You all sucked his for years. Now he's a chicken , now that he doesn't want you.

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    If you are rich and politically liberal there are few places in America better to live in than LA.

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    That's why I prefaced my comment with my armchair assessment of Kawhi's mental state - hyper-coachable until a single issue of trust surfaces. He probably had a bone to pick over how he was handled in the playoffs last year as well. Tony freezing him out for years didn't do any favors to team chemistry, and when Tony spoke up, confirmation bias told Kawhi Tony is a got. He's a binary thinker.

    You all sucked his for years. Now he's a chicken , now that he doesn't want you.
    I didnt

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    Leave $39 million on the table to go to a state with massive state income and property taxes where you can no longer deduct the state and local taxes on your federal tax return????


    Is no one telling him this math?? The dude might very well go bankrupt unless he gets huuuge endorsements but he ain’t Kobe or Jordan or LeBron.
    His group thinks he's guaranteed to become the next big thing in LA, a money maker like Kobe. Not going to happen if James decides to join Lakers.

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    He doesn't, his Uncle does. He isn't getting a shoe deal in the vicinity of any other superstar regardless of where he is - despises talking to the media & isn't interested in making himself marketable.
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    I just don’t see it. The guy has no personality, who is he going to rep, sylvan learning?

    He’s clearly been pumped with dillusional fantasies by people that have no concept of how money works
    LOL @ SYLVAN LEARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    If we are being completely honest he might make it up in LA. It's likely he gets a signature shoe there, his jersey already sells pretty well despite his personality. I also think the lowball shoe offer he got from Jordan has something to do with him wanting out.
    True but endorsement money is not guaranteed money. Knowing kawhis health issues uncle will prioritize a contract first.

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    Ive never understood the ignore list. Not sure why you would come to an internet message board where many people post incoherrent things just cause. People arent really here to gain information. Theyre here to ruffle feathers. Not sure which is more sad, being on spurstalk or watching the nba.

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    Can he still buy a house in LA if he only signs for $120 million? How will he ever live?

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    Leave $39 million on the table to go to a state with massive state income and property taxes where you can no longer deduct the state and local taxes on your federal tax return????


    Is no one telling him this math?? The dude might very well go bankrupt unless he gets huuuge endorsements but he ain’t Kobe or Jordan or LeBron.
    He would have left $39M on the table if the Spurs would have offered him the supermax or something like that...But that didn't happen.

    If Kawhi would lose money one way or another, it doesn't matter where he would play for an year.

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    He would have left $39M on the table if the Spurs would have offered him the supermax or something like that...But that didn't happen.

    If Kawhi would lose money one way or another, it doesn't matter where he would play for an year.
    So far. He leaves another chunk bordering on $40M if he walks away from wherever SA trades him.

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    So far. He leaves another chunk bordering on $40M if he walks away from wherever SA trades him.
    It's not that hard to realize he'll lose something like $80M but it's not like he has other option.

    He won't stay on a team that denied him the supermax and if the Spurs trade him to some scrub like Magic or Suns, it's pretty obvious he won't stay there more than one year...

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    Ainge took a chance at Irving who said he wanted to be traded to New York.

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    If you have tens of millions of dollars, it’s a no brained to live in a NYC type city, even with state and city tax.

    Lol bankrupt
    Bro no offense but you’re also re ed. Post Trump Tax Cut means you can no longer deduct state and local taxes from the federal return. It makes no sense to live in NYC or LA anymore...


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...-of-taxes.html

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    Bro no offense but you’re also re ed. Post Trump Tax Cut means you can no longer deduct state and local taxes from the federal return. It makes no sense to live in NYC or LA anymore...


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...-of-taxes.html
    No bro, actually you're re ed. First, the SALT deduction hasn't been eliminated - it's been capped. Second, no one who makes tens of millions of dollars per year is concerned about those deductions - they have accountants and money managers who'll invest that money in low or no tax investments (REITs, bonds, etc...). The money they make in those investments, plus the millions they're already sitting on (after tax), along with the perks/quality of life from living on the coast matter way more to someone in their 20s and 30s than the SALT deduction.

    Lemme know when all those people worth 100MM+ start flocking to San Antonio.

    Oh, and also this, from your article:

    "There is no correlation between the top tax state tax rate and the number (or rate) of millionaires in a state," he said. He added that the people most affected by tax rates are the "late-career working rich" and they are less likely to move because they are "embedded in place for a host of social and economic reasons," from the location of their companies and jobs to their social lives, charitable boards and customers.

    lol

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    Bro no offense but you’re also re ed. Post Trump Tax Cut means you can no longer deduct state and local taxes from the federal return. It makes no sense to live in NYC or LA anymore...


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...-of-taxes.html
    thinking the only factor in deciding where to live is the state and local tax rates

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    I bet Kawhi uses H&R Block to prepare his returns ...

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    I bet Kawhi uses H&R Block to prepare his returns ...
    It's probably better than using Uncle Dennis.

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    I bet Kawhi uses H&R Block to prepare his returns ...
    Damn, you say I owe taxes?

    No way pal.

    I didn't do a damn thing last year!

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    No bro, actually you're re ed. First, the SALT deduction hasn't been eliminated - it's been capped. Second, no one who makes tens of millions of dollars per year is concerned about those deductions - they have accountants and money managers who'll invest that money in low or no tax investments (REITs, bonds, etc...). The money they make in those investments, plus the millions they're already sitting on (after tax), along with the perks/quality of life from living on the coast matter way more to someone in their 20s and 30s than the SALT deduction.

    Lemme know when all those people worth 100MM+ start flocking to San Antonio.

    Oh, and also this, from your article:

    "There is no correlation between the top tax state tax rate and the number (or rate) of millionaires in a state," he said. He added that the people most affected by tax rates are the "late-career working rich" and they are less likely to move because they are "embedded in place for a host of social and economic reasons," from the location of their companies and jobs to their social lives, charitable boards and customers.

    lol
    Dude you have no idea what you’re even arguing about...

    The SALT deduction is capped at $10k. Last year it was at 100%. So you used to be able to deduct 3 mil if you paid a mil in property and a cool 2 mil in income tax at the local level. Now? 10k...

    You do you.

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    Bro no offense but you’re also re ed. Post Trump Tax Cut means you can no longer deduct state and local taxes from the federal return.
    First, the SALT deduction hasn't been eliminated - it's been capped.
    Dude you have no idea what you’re even arguing about...

    The SALT deduction is capped at $10k.
    hmmm......

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    It's probably better than using Uncle Dennis.
    You know it's already happening.

    Who is going to make the call to protect Kawhi?
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    220M for ANY PLAYER is risky. I’m not saying he’s not worth it and if he wants to bolt then I can’t blame him (even if he ends up losing more money in the long run). Spurs will never just throw around that much money without seriously thinking about it. Only time and Kawhis health will tell if it’s a “major up”. If the next five years wil be like 16-17 kawhi then maybe it is... but NOBODY Knows that
    Spurs have overpaid trash recently, now they're pinching pennies for a hall of fame? GTFOH

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    I think he wants to be close to his family. It has nothing to do with the franchise. If anything he is probabally more pissed off with the spurs medical team for misdiagnosis on his quad injury and how the spurs PR handled it by dragging his name through the mud. With that the combination of tony Parker and Bruce Bowen comments most likely got under his skin and pissed him off. You have to remember guys who are of Leonard’s caliber are compe ive dudes so when that is under attack and he’s unable to retaliate physically he will retaliate emotionally. Which is leaving the spurs.

    Almost every star has done this in 2000’s Kobe, Lebron, Shaq, inverson, Melo, Gasol, Webber, Billups, etc... if you remember kobe was almost traded to Chicago or the Clippers

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