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    I'll answer on topic questions that aren't a waste of time.

    Got any?

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    I'll answer on topic questions that aren't a waste of time.

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    You keep pushin' dem goalposts, psychopath.

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    You keep pushin' dem goalposts, psychopath.
    Do you have any on topic questions or not?

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    Yep. But youll keep on. It's all you know.

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    But, why, Dumps, I genuinely don't understand why the R's want this. Please explain, fellow?
    I wouldn't put it past them that this is entirely about 'sticking it to the lib governor', tbh, such is the level of acrimony these days. Even if it involves putting people at risk.

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    Conspiracy theories good now
    How do you gloss it?

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    How do you gloss it?
    Low voter turnout may favor the Republicans when it's a choice to just not go vote because of being lazy but when it's a health issue that's not the same thing. I think it's intellectually lazy to just call Republicans or democrats a death cult as an excuse for a poor showing at the polls.

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    I was a lot like everyone in this forum up until the crisis in 2007. I was a die hard republican and defender of Bush. Then came TARP and I began to reflect back on the Patriot Act and other things he did. I realized quickly that he was not what I considered conservative. I couldn't believe Obama got elected and then continued Bush's spending spree and war in the middle east. Most people tend to look for excuses for their "chosen one" to explain why things didn't go so well, and that is the trap. Everyone wants to beilieve their "party" is the good guy and if only we can get the presidency or house, then man things will be different. Trump took over and Obamacare was suppose to be gone.... nope, not gonna happen.

    The hardest part about where most of you are right now, is you can't accept that your "party" is maybe just as much a part of the problem as the other side. G. Edward Griffin talks about the two party paradigm. It's pretty eye opening. The media and politicians do a good job of keeping us in that paradigm by using social issues, foreign policies, and spending policies to keep us divided.

    You can always be sure of these things regardless of which side of the isle is in power:


    1. The national debt will increase if not double every two terms
    2. The size and power of the government will increase
    3. We will always be in conflict with other countries that don't play by the rules and replace their gov'ts

    Both parties are about collectivism. Collectivism depends on a central and powerful government. The founding fathers tried very hard to protect us from this. When you study the history and what they had to say about these situations, you begin to see things differently.

    For the greater good sounds great until your outside the greater good. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on whats for dinner.

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    ^ well said

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    Low voter turnout may favor the Republicans when it's a choice to just not go vote because of being lazy but when it's a health issue that's not the same thing. I think it's intellectually lazy to just call Republicans or democrats a death cult as an excuse for a poor showing at the polls.
    Mosaic of evidence, it isn't like this is the only peg to hang it on.

    It's poignant that the court decision requiring WI to hold the election today was rendered remotely -- to protect the justices.

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    Low voter turnout may favor the Republicans when it's a choice to just not go vote because of being lazy but when it's a health issue that's not the same thing. I think it's intellectually lazy to just call Republicans or democrats a death cult as an excuse for a poor showing at the polls.
    So why do you think the Republicans insisted on having the election today?

    You never really said.

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    Mosaic of evidence, it isn't like this is the only peg to hang it on.

    It's poignant that the court decision requiring WI to hold the election today was rendered remotely -- to protect the justices.
    That's a bit of a red herring. Since the younger crowd votes for the left, and since the virus has much less severe effect on the younger crowd, why would the left suffer? It's not like the younger crowd has to be in school today or that they have to be at work.

    Other than just a generic statement that the right normally benefits from low voter turnout, how is this particular event benefiting the right?

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    That's a bit of a red herring. Since the younger crowd votes for the left, and since the virus has much less severe effect on the younger crowd, why would the left suffer? It's not like the younger crowd has to be in school today or that they have to be at work.

    Other than just a generic statement that the right normally benefits from low voter turnout, how is this particular event benefiting the right?
    Behold and feel the safety.

    Seriously, what's the good civics rationale here? Is there one?


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    Behold and feel the safety.

    Seriously, what's the good civics rationale here? Is there one?

    We just laughing at this ass hat, or do you have a larger point here?

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    Behold and feel the safety.

    Seriously, what's the good civics rationale here? Is there one?

    He's one helmet away from being an astronaut.

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    So why do you think the Republicans insisted on having the election today?

    You never really said.
    They playing the same blood sport you're playing?

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    They playing the same blood sport you're playing?
    ?

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    I was a lot like everyone in this forum up until the crisis in 2007. I was a die hard republican and defender of Bush. Then came TARP and I began to reflect back on the Patriot Act and other things he did. I realized quickly that he was not what I considered conservative. I couldn't believe Obama got elected and then continued Bush's spending spree and war in the middle east. Most people tend to look for excuses for their "chosen one" to explain why things didn't go so well, and that is the trap. Everyone wants to beilieve their "party" is the good guy and if only we can get the presidency or house, then man things will be different. Trump took over and Obamacare was suppose to be gone.... nope, not gonna happen.

    The hardest part about where most of you are right now, is you can't accept that your "party" is maybe just as much a part of the problem as the other side. G. Edward Griffin talks about the two party paradigm. It's pretty eye opening. The media and politicians do a good job of keeping us in that paradigm by using social issues, foreign policies, and spending policies to keep us divided.

    You can always be sure of these things regardless of which side of the isle is in power:


    1. The national debt will increase if not double every two terms
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    3. We will always be in conflict with other countries that don't play by the rules and replace their gov'ts

    Both parties are about collectivism. Collectivism depends on a central and powerful government. The founding fathers tried very hard to protect us from this. When you study the history and what they had to say about these situations, you begin to see things differently.

    For the greater good sounds great until your outside the greater good. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on whats for dinner.
    The only thing that matters to Chumpettes.

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    You've supported plenty of warmongers and glorified lowlifes. You expect us to believe you'd be crying foul if you thought the Dems were benefiting?

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    You've supported plenty of warmongers and glorified lowlifes. You expect us to believe you'd be crying foul if you thought the Dems were benefiting?
    I wouldn't want to put voters at that risk even if it meant removing Trump.

    Why are you in favor of today's election?

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    You've supported plenty of warmongers and glorified lowlifes. You expect us to believe you'd be crying foul if you thought the Dems were benefiting?
    Lol "us"

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    That's a bit of a red herring. Since the younger crowd votes for the left, and since the virus has much less severe effect on the younger crowd, why would the left suffer? It's not like the younger crowd has to be in school today or that they have to be at work.

    Other than just a generic statement that the right normally benefits from low voter turnout, how is this particular event benefiting the right?
    There were hardly any voting sites available in urban areas where people had to line up for a lenghty period. Meanwhile suburban areas had ample sites available with little to no wait. Who do you think that favored? As always repugs stacked the deck to get a minority victory so they could get that state supreme court seat and stack the deck even further.

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    Do you believe that Chump would be crying if he thought the Democrats were benefiting?

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    There were hardly any voting sites available in urban areas where people had to line up for a lenghty period. Meanwhile suburban areas had ample sites available with little to no wait. Who do you think that favored? As always repugs stacked the deck to get a minority victory so they could get that state supreme court seat and stack the deck even further.
    Why don't Democrats fix their voting precincts? I keep hearing this cry as if their urban voting precincts are ran by Repubs.

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    I wouldn't want to put voters at that risk even if it meant removing Trump.
    Oh, so you're calling on the presidential election to be delayed indefinitely until there's a COVID-19 vaccine?

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