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    Fascism doesn't happen overnight. Mussolini/Hitler took 20+ years to get their ducks in a row.
    Wisconsin v. Mitc was decided over 25 years ago. How much longer do we need to wait before the US becomes a fascist state?

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    What is your general definition of fascism?
    Centralized autocratic government that puts the benefit of many over the rights of the individual.

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    Wisconsin v. Mitc was decided over 25 years ago. How much longer do we need to wait before the US becomes a fascist state?
    Ask ANTIFA...apparently it's already here.

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    Fascism doesn't happen overnight. Mussolini/Hitler took 20+ years to get their ducks in a row.
    uh huh.

    I think hate speech regulations are bs, but what about the speech and association rights of business?

    Do you think the government should force companies to host speakers and views they find abhorrent?

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    antifa is a bunch of clowns. try to be less transparent.

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    Centralized autocratic government that puts the benefit of many over the rights of the individual.
    Why were you including that bit about national boards/committees?

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    Ask ANTIFA...apparently it's already here.
    Do you think that was an answer to my question?

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    which is more like fascism: the government telling businesses whose viewpoints they must accommodate, or businesses determining that for themselves?

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    which is more like fascism: the government telling businesses whose viewpoints they must accommodate, or businesses determining that for themselves?
    It's only fascism when my viewpoint is excluded.

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    Fascism? Yes or no?

    https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/19/fa...ech-in-europe/

    Last week the European Commission warned it could still draw up legislation to try to ensure illegal content is removed from online platforms if tech firms do not step up their efforts.


    Germany has already done so for, implementing a regime of fines of up to €50M for social media firms that fail to promptly remove illegal hate speech, though the EC is generally eyeing a wider mix of illegal content when it talks tough on this topic — including terrorist propaganda and even copyrighted material.

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    yep

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    https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/19/fa...ech-in-europe/

    Last week the European Commission warned it could still draw up legislation to try to ensure illegal content is removed from online platforms if tech firms do not step up their efforts.


    Germany has already done so for, implementing a regime of fines of up to €50M for social media firms that fail to promptly remove illegal hate speech, though the EC is generally eyeing a wider mix of illegal content when it talks tough on this topic — including terrorist propaganda and even copyrighted material.
    I'm against EU style restrictions on speech.

    We've got it pretty good here

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    which is more like fascism: the government telling businesses whose viewpoints they must accommodate, or businesses determining that for themselves?
    his problem is with the companies. specific companies that reside in his head.

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    Europe isn't America. Free speech laws are radically different, i.e., laws against holocaust denial.

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    Ask ANTIFA...apparently it's already here.
    You believe ANTIFA?

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    Europe isn't America. Free speech laws are radically different, i.e., laws against holocaust denial.
    Yet four years ago Democratic congressmen introduced a law that was very similar? You think another version of that law doesn't come around in the next 20 years?
    Last edited by KenMcCoy; 08-08-2018 at 10:58 AM. Reason: changed "exactly" to "very similar"

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    Yet four years ago Democratic congressmen introduced a law that was exactly the same? You think another version of that law doesn't come around in the next 20 years?
    Please direct me to the bill introduced by Democratic Congressmen that outlawed holocaust denial.

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    Centralized autocratic government that puts the benefit of many over the rights of the individual.
    A democratic republic by definition isn't autocratic.

    Trump's threats are more autocratic than muh boards.

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    By my definition, yes.

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    By my definition, yes.
    Trump is a fascist by your definition.

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    Europe isn't America. Free speech laws are radically different, i.e., laws against holocaust denial.
    EU is way ahead of USA in many areas

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    Trump is a fascist by your definition.
    On that particular legislation, yes. Along with 97 senators that voted yes.

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    EU is way ahead of USA in many areas
    Not in this respect

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