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Imagine being so great it only took you six seasons to be a Hall of Famer.
Gale Sayers.
The All Time HBCU/NFL
QB...Steve McNair Alcorn
RB...Walter Payton Jackson St
RB...Leroy Kelly Morgan St
WR..Jerry Rice MVS
WR..,Bob Hayes FAMU
TE...Shannon Sharpe Savannah St
All but McNair in the HOF
Imagine being so great it only took you six seasons to be a Hall of Famer.
Gale Sayers.
Barry best ever; and it's not close.
http://www.espn.com/college-football...ng-1988-season
You're showing your age, ah....lack of it.
No RB in history ever dominated their era like Jim Brown did. That is how these things are done...DOMINANCE OF ERA.
Barry Sanders was amazing, fantastic,sensational, but........he wasn't as dominate as Jim Brown.
And...
If you have ever played defense then you know what a big RB can do to you. Yep, they will wear you down which opens up everything else they want to do. That wasn't Barry Sanders, that was Jim Brown.
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jim brown was great at running over 240 pound defensive linemen
The college teams Barry was rushing against were better than the weak pro teams Jim Brown played against.
You know the game, you know how it works. How many of these 300 pounders would be 300 pounders in the 60's?
But....Bullet Bob Hayes would STILL be the fastest player in the NFL.
You really have no clue how any of this actually works do ya?
Jesse Owens is an American sports icon, a legend. There are HS kids out there right now running far faster than Owens did in his era that nobody will ever hear about.
ERA....ERA....ERA....ERA...ERA....ok?
The below is from THE GREATEST WR EVER
2. Don Hutson
Green Bay Packers (1935-1945)
Rice is often thought of as the top player in all of NFL history, but Don Hutson held that honor for the league's first 50 years. He, Sammy Baugh and Otto Graham were in the conversation for that prize then. Hutson's NFL record of 99 career receiving touchdowns was not surpassed until 40 years after he retired. When he hung 'em up in the mid-1940s, he had posted nearly twice as many receptions as the next closest player. The one criticism of Hutson is that he played when African-American players were not in the league. You can't blame someone for who they competed against. ... We don't knock Babe Ruth for this when talking about the best baseball players of all time.
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Don Hutson ran the 100 in 9.8 (yards) I doubt Jordy Nelson (Kansas State 100 champ) ran faster. So he could play today but no way he puts up the numbers he did, obviously.
Jim Brown was 6-2 230 with 4.5 speed, that is right there with anyone playing today.
Last edited by Avante; 08-24-2018 at 06:37 PM.
You cannot talk THE GOAT and QB's without Joe Montana in that discussion. The fact there is noway in he could do what he did in his era today and everybody gets that, yep,....so what.
QB: Brad Johnson
RB: Warrick Dunn
FB: William Floyd
WR1: Fred Biletnikoff
WR2: Randy Moss
WR3: Laveranues Coles
TE: Nick O'Leary
Huh???
How about the All Time Cal/NFL team?
QB,,,Aaron Rodgers
RB...,Marshawn Lynch
RB...,Chuck Muncie
Wr...Wesley Walker......actually faster than Jackson***
WR...Desuen Jackson
TE...Tony Gonzalez
*** legally blind in one eye
The All Time AFL
QB....Joe Namath Jets
RB.....Cookie Gilchrist Bills
RB.....Paul Lowe Chargers
WR....Lance Allworth Chargers
WR....Don Maynard Jets
TE.....Dave Casper Raiders
Second team
Len Dawson Chiefs
Abner Haynes Cihiefs
Clem Daniels Raiders
Otis Taylor Chiefs
Charley Hennigan Oilers
Fred Arbanas Chiefs
Last edited by Avante; 08-25-2018 at 03:56 AM.
When you look at those runs, they all would've been stuffed at the line of scrimmage in today's game. Jim Brown was a product of his era; he's not an all-time great.
I have a challenge for ya. Find me something or anyone out there in cyper space that agrees with you. You cannot find anything anywhere talking RB 's where Jim Brown isn't number one. And if you find something where he isn't number one he will be number two.
Come on, prove that Jim Brown isn't the best RB ever.
I could totaly overwelm you with TONS and TONS of stuff showing you just how wrong you really are.
Just one of a TON
Belichick explained his decision on Monday.
“Well, I think honestly any person, football player or otherwise, can learn a lot from Jim Brown and what he represents and what he stands for,” Belichick said. “But particularly as it relates to our football team, Jim Brown's in my opinion the greatest player that ever played.
“I've had an opportunity to have known him Jim for over 20 years now. I met him when I was the coach at the Browns and just had so much more respect and appreciation for him knowing him well as a person and as a friend, even just as an observer from a distance, but I think he's meant so much to this game. He's paved the way for all of us; players and coaches. [He's] part of many people who have made professional football, the game of football, the great game that it is.
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Let's see we have Bill Belichick who many consider the best coach ever calling Jim Brown not just the greatest RB ever but the best player. Then we have you....hmmm?
How about?
Jim Brown called 'best player that ever lived' by Marcus Allen during 80th birthday special
Jim Brown: The Undisputed Greatest
James Nathaniel Brown (born February 17, 1936) is a former professional American football player and actor. He was a running back for the Cleveland Browns of the National Football League (NFL) from 1957 through 1965.******* Considered to be the greatest football player of all time*******,[1] Brown was a Pro Bowl invitee every season he was in the league, was recognized as the AP NFL Most Valuable Player three times, and won an NFL championship with the Browns in 1964. He led the league in rushing yards in eight out of his nine seasons, and by the time he retired, he had shattered most major rushing records. In 2002, he was named by The Sporting News******** as the greatest professional football player ever.[2]*************
Last edited by Avante; 08-27-2018 at 07:46 AM.
Spurtacular
You don't appear to understand how any of this stuff works. It's never ever going be about how athletes from other era would fare today, it simply doesn't work like that at all...ok? It's always going to be about dominance of era. Nobody ever was more dominate running the ball than Jim Brown was in his era. That is how everybody does this "Greatest of All Time" thing. That is the only way it can be done, IF IF IF...talking all time.
There is one exception to that however, that would be Bullet Bob Hayes. His 10.06 on Tokyo dirt some 55ish years ago is the fastest 100m ever ran by anyone who ever played pro football. Superior to Hollidays 10.00.
There is no end to this.
Jim Brown Was The Greatest Football AND Lacrosse Player Ever
Posted on August 16, 2017 by gritt •
You know Jim Brown as the man many consider to be the greatest football player in the history of the sport. But many aren’t aware he’s also considered that same le in the sport of lacrosse, having been a First-Team Lacrosse All-American at Syracuse before his NFL days. The Hall of Famer joined Newy to talk about a passion project do entary of his called “Spirit Game: Pride of a Nation.”
Lol quidditch
Go anywhere out there that talks about the great QB's, you will read about Otto Graham, Fran Tarkenton, John Unitas........why?
Avante's black supremacist world turned upside down
No not really.
The list of great black kick returners in a mile long. Go ahead give me five stud white return men.
Tell ya what. For ever white stud kick returner you can give me I'll give ya five black ones.
Last edited by Avante; 08-28-2018 at 02:28 PM.
The All Time NFL 200m
lane
1.Jerome Mathis...Texans/Hampton
2.Henry Carr...Giants/ASU...WR /Oly gpld
3.Bob Hayes,,,Cowboys/FAMU WR
4.Tyreek Hill...Chiefs/Okie St
5.James Jett...Raiders/WV
6.Michael Bates...Seahawks/Arizona...Olympian
7.James Trapp...Raiders/Clemson
8.Larry Burton...Saints/Purdue...Olympian
Will ignore Olympians Stone Johnson, Frank Budd, Ray Norton, Tommie Smith......they did..0.
One of my prized possessions, A 250 pound fullback in the early 60's, the old AFL's first 1000 yard rusher.
Elbert "Golden Wheels" Dubenion out of Blufton (what?) he was considered the fastest man in the old AFL. Yep, own it.
Another 250 fullback from the early 60's, love this card. Love that...grrrrrrrr.
I'm thinking he and Gilchrist ended up on the Dolphins together.
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