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    You did? Meaning, you now think he’s innocent?

    No, meaning I didn't presume his innocence.

    This is a little advanced for you, Darrin. You should stick to posting YouTubes from your email lists without comment like a good little boy.

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    Did you think OJ committed those murders before he was put on trial, Nathan?

    I did.

    Did Trump presume the innocence of the Central Park Five, Nathan?

    Do you think Hillary is completely innocent of anything she was ever accused of doing, Nathan?

    Let's discuss your absolute presumption of innocence and those of others in history, Nathan.

    I believe we will discover you have none.
    That's a fine comment, Pav. Yes, people thinking like that on different situations is pretty natural. That being said it's being glorified and turned into a goal. "We believe her" or the many derivatives like "trust victims" are dangerous. Presumption of innocence is the goal.

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    You can't vote in the US at all.

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    " Presumption of innocence is the goal."

    ... which K's fans deny Ford.



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    That's a fine comment, Pav. Yes, people thinking like that on different situations is pretty natural. That being said it's being glorified and turned into a goal. "We believe her" or the many derivatives like "trust victims" are dangerous. Presumption of innocence is the goal.
    You didn't answer any questions, Nathan.

    Let's start with one since you seem a little afraid.

    Do you presume Hillary and bill Clinton to be innocent of any and all crimes they have been accused of committing?

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    " Presumption of innocence is the goal."

    ... which K's fans deny Ford.


    when people change their story
    And witnesses do not recall it makes it very hard to believe ford

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    " Presumption of innocence is the goal."

    ... which K's fans deny Ford.



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    Psychiatrist: Brett Kavanaugh should seek psychological care for his disturbed mental status

    “In none of my interviews, however, did I behave like Brett Kavanaugh during his Senate hearing,” he wrote.

    “Whether Judge Kavanaugh lied, whether he did or currently does suffer from alcohol abuse or dependence,

    whether he is or isn’t guilty of sexual abuse in the past,

    his interview behavior alone was, in my opinion, appalling and disqualifying.

    Despite extraordinary coaching in preparation for his testimony,

    he behaved with hostility and belligerence.

    He was, at times, demonstrably abusive.”

    If that interview was similar to a stress interview, Kavanaugh failed, according to Dr. Greenspan.

    He noted he can’t believe any employer would ever determine he was an acceptable candidate.

    “Certainly, if he were a candidate for a psychiatry residency and I had been stress-interviewing him,

    I’d have urged him to seek psychiatric or psychological care, given his disturbed mental status,” he wrote.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/psy...mental-status/



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    Raw people live in a fantasy land

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    You think they won't?

    Every single targetted house district is tilted toward democrats. They only need 23 seats out of 100s that are actually for grabs. Most of which even hillary won.

    Keep being a pessimistic loser though. Suits you, imo.
    It's more likely than not that they take the house but it isn't in the bag. One would think you would have learned your lesson after your premature embarrassing Hillary victory dances last time around.

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    OP on suicide watch. Manufactured dem smear #2 up in flames.

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    " Presumption of innocence is the goal."

    ... which K's fans deny Ford.


    She's not in court. Presumption of innocence does not apply.

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    She's not in court. Presumption of innocence does not apply.
    Neither is Kavanaugh.

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    Diane Frankenstien... "What's most notable is what's not in the report" Doesn't that include every single thing possible under the sun besides what is in the report?
    "perhaps by the Whitehouse, I don't know" ... Dem tactics 101, offer an allegation then hedge by saying you don't know.

    I called this .

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    It's more likely than not that they take the house but it isn't in the bag. One would think you would have learned your lesson after your premature embarrassing Hillary victory dances last time around.
    You thought she would win too.

    In fact most here did. And fact most of the world did.

    Dont make this about an indivudual when polls, analysis pointed to a Hillary win. They all got it wrong. But yeah sure, I was the only person making that call.

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    Presumption of innocence is the goal.


    Nathan

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    You thought she would win too.

    In fact most here did. And fact most of the world did.

    Dont make this about an indivudual when polls, analysis pointed to a Hillary win. They all got it wrong. But yeah sure, I was the only person making that call.
    Sure most, including me, thought she would win but there's a difference. You were talking and taking a victory dance in the 3rd quarter like you're doing now. Ducks just bumped the thread of you doing it. I'm just saying it's not in the bag and you might find yourself running away again.

    I congratulate you all.

    Time to migrate up top to the NBA forum.

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    Heidi Heitkamp is a no

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    Heidi Heitkamp is a no
    Thanks for the update. Lindsey Graham is a yes.

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    Time to migrate up top to the NBA forum.

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    You thought she would win too.
    True

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    Raw people live in a fantasy land
    Says the chubby chaser that pees on children

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    You thought she would win too.

    In fact most here did. And fact most of the world did.
    Not me

    I called that

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    Heidi Heitkamp is a no
    Totally irrelevant and unneeded vote

    She won't be back next year anyway.

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    Not me

    I called that
    No you didn’t. You played both sides and then claimed irrelevant victory like you always do. If this is really the best schtick you can come up with, that’s sad.

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