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    I'm fine with repeating the 2009 and 2010 seasons again. I recall we were all down in this board and certainly nationally everyone thought the Spurs were finished. And then an unparalleled level of success followed.

    Let the Golden State synthetic dynasty run its course and by, say, 2022, San Antonio will be in the thick of things. It'll be 1995-2008 and 2011-2017 all over again.
    I hope you're right, but you realise we had Tim, Tony and Manu on these teams?

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    Obviously. But why was seemingly everything contingent on what the Raptors wanted? Diminished value or not, the Spurs were the ones trading the premiere player.

    The Raptors needed a C anyway (though more of a depth one) and ended up signing a somewhat similar one in Monroe. There's no reason to think this would have been a deal breaker.

    And if Leonard stays, the trade looks even worse on the Spurs. The Raptors had no leverage once word had gotten out of the discussions being serious, since it was obvious DeRozan would be the centerpiece of the return. At that point, they needed to close the deal.

    Talent wise, particularly given the cir stances, the Spurs did well to get a top 30 player, a lottery pick and another 1st . . . but fit wise, they cemented themselves as an archaic outfit and possible treadmill team and gave the Raptors a virtually ideal modern team (minus a play making C, that can switch).
    Pretty sure Toronto got way more criticism than the Spurs for this trade. Most were expecting Toronto to sit tight and make a lebronless playoff push. They had plenty of leverage and the Spurs obviously needed to remove the cancer from the locker room.

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    Pretty sure Toronto got way more criticism than the Spurs for this trade. Most were expecting Toronto to sit tight and make a lebronless playoff push. They had plenty of leverage and the Spurs obviously needed to remove the cancer from the locker room.
    but raptors did end up making some quick moves after that trade, like gettim monroe..a big is still a big...

    had they made the kawhi trade earlier, maybe anderson would still be on the team...

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    I like this team from an entertainment standpoint... Don't think they have enough to beat teams like the Dubs, at first sight, but they should really go for a gun and run approach until they get some semblance of defense going, and I think they can do that well, IMO.

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    I like Davis at ude and his interview. It's up to him. I want to see him play well. He's a special shooter who can get hot and give you a flurry at times. I hope to see him more this year than last. Up to him he said.

    Edit/addition: video above on the Pau interview. He looks in good shape and with a better mentality to fit in wherever he can help the team the most. Good feedback from him. Also glad to hear they will play faster and he will adapt or understand when the lineup needs to change. I was happy to hear him mention Dejounte and White as the PG frankly.
    Last edited by SAGirl; 09-26-2018 at 11:29 AM.

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    "When you decided to re-sign here what is/was that mind set to do that, you could have went anywhere else."

    Jabari already trying to poison the well.
    Not particularly fond of that guy but you could say that question was for Rudy to tell him why he liked SA.

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    but raptors did end up making some quick moves after that trade, like gettim monroe..a big is still a big...

    had they made the kawhi trade earlier, maybe anderson would still be on the team...
    Maybe he stays and Davis leaves. I dont think they could've afforded both of those guys at the same position. KA was the slightly better player but Davis was the better fit for this roster. Could've definitely been the other way around with an elite shooter like Kawhi on the roster.

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    Maybe he stays and Davis leaves. I dont think they could've afforded both of those guys at the same position. KA was the slightly better player but Davis was the better fit for this roster. Could've definitely been the other way around with an elite shooter like Kawhi on the roster.
    Think Pop would had preferred KA, but his relutant to shoot 3 balls ends all possibility of SA signing him.

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    Like what makes your depressing pessimistic view any different and right??
    apparently, if an opinion is dressed up with the appropriate vernacular and basketball jargon, it's supposed to suffice as a more objective take. the poster in question also has a history of theatrics.

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    Think Pop would had preferred KA, but his relutant to shoot 3 balls ends all possibility of SA signing him.
    Well apparently Spurs strongly considered signing him even at the $9M +/ yr contract he got from Grizzlies. But with our need for 3 pt shooting this year, yes, it was the right decision.

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    What happened to Bertans' build? He looks like he regressed to his adolescent form

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    What happened to Bertans' build? He looks like he regressed to his adolescent form
    he has always been that skinny and slim shouldered. Perhaps it wasn't noticed b4 since he gave so few interviews. I think he needs pairing with a strong rebounder for sure. I hope Poltl is one. So much focus is on the guards that the bench bigs and how they play is overlooked.

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    I'm not at all stressed. I almost never am about anything and I damn sure haven't been about anything sports related since game 6 of the '14 WCF.

    I didn't intend to go back down this road, but some of your ilk (blind faith, vanilla take, apologists) took issue with my snide/snarky remark, so I responded in kind.

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    I love the fact you call optimistic people “vanilla fan apologist”..

    Like what makes your depressing pessimistic view any different and right??

    I feel you struggle with the fact some people here or fans in general try to enjoy watching their favorite team compete...so you try to talk down to people like what you say ing matters..

    You’re just a poster like the rest of us...except you jumped off the cliff with a parachute talking at the people who haven’t jumped yet.

    Enjoy the season bruh lol
    10/10 post tbh

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    I'm not at all stressed. I almost never am about anything and I damn sure haven't been about anything sports related since game 6 of the '14 WCF.

    I didn't intend to go back down this road, but some of your ilk (blind faith, vanilla take, apologists) took issue with my snide/snarky remark, so I responded in kind.
    Lol. This guy and TheGreat (and all his other burner accounts) are pathetic. Coming in here thinking you're above others because you have dumb takes all because you're trying to be edgy. Get some attention more.

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    TD21 is a good poster, way better than a bunch of posters criticizing him. He and I go at it over issues as much as anyone. I disagree with a lot of things he says. But he comes in and give reasoned opinions and defends his points. I'll take that over the trolling and vapid takes any day. Not saying he should be going around putting down other posters, but a ton of folks on here give really shallow opinions that they aren't willing to back up with research or with further arguments. TD21 is the Seto Kaiba of this board. He makes it better by going against popular opinion but still supporting the same side ultimately

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    Only way I can see us becoming a serious contender this year is if Murray takes a big leap offensively. White would also have to be consistent contributor. This team definitely has talent to compete with anyone outside of the Warriors in a 7 game series. There are too many unknowns at the moment to know how the Spurs with fair this year.

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    For the record, hate the trolling that is aimed at personal attacks against other fans. When you just jump into a thread to call someone stupid or whatever, or just to criticize his opinion without giving much of an opinion yourself, there's no need to even bother with you... far as I am concerned.

    I have had some personal attacks directed at me, and while I don't give a and wipe my ass with those takes, wouldn't mind if that stuff is moderated to begin with.

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    Only way I can see us becoming a serious contender this year is if Murray takes a big leap offensively. White would also have to be consistent contributor. This team definitely has talent to compete with anyone outside of the Warriors in a 7 game series. There are too many unknowns at the moment to know how the Spurs with fair this year.
    I'm simply excited to see a fresh team without the drama and watch how the season plays out without the same old guys doing their thing, but slower every year.

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    Freaking awesome

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    Only way I can see us becoming a serious contender this year is if Murray takes a big leap offensively. White would also have to be consistent contributor. This team definitely has talent to compete with anyone outside of the Warriors in a 7 game series. There are too many unknowns at the moment to know how the Spurs with fair this year.
    Frankly, perhaps I am way too pessimistic and my opinion on him changes but I don't see this team as a contender with Derozan at the helm. He's just been too awful in the playoffs to give me any hope.

    Regular season fun team and perhaps 2nd round ouster is the ceiling... Derozan could suprise so we'll see.

    There's many young players that one really doesn't know how improved they will be. There could be gems there or not. That we really don't know yet, we can project, prognosticate, hope, etc. but know per se? No. Too young, too inexperienced, short track record, ages at which leaps are still possible, so there's hope there.

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