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  1. 10-30-2018 #76
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    Dear Leader doing Dear Leader things...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winehole23
    in what kind of democracy does the President refer to the armed forces as "my military"?
    Clearly this guy: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/a...a-surveillance
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris
    Cons utional Republic

    Are you upset Trump is taking responsibility for the military?
    No. I'm calling him a tinpot for claiming it's his.

    It's the Armed Forces of the United States not the Armed Forces of POTUS. POTUS is an officer of the United States as are all those in the armed forces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    Clearly this guy: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/a...a-surveillance
    Yep.

    Cool article, thanks for the post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmt
    Some posters here don't seem to notice Trump's pattern of "going overboard" on whatever topic he would like discussed. Of course, he can't do it - he'll be sued just like he is for just about every EO he puts out there (whether it's cons utional or not).
    I thought you cared about the cons ution son
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winehole23
    No. I'm calling him a tinpot for claiming it's his.

    It's the Armed Forces of the United States not the Armed Forces of POTUS. POTUS is an officer of the United States as are all those in the armed forces.
    POTUS is commander-in-chief. It's Trump's military.
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    it's his to command while he is in office.

    it's not his personal army, nor does it belong to him.
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    we traditionally maintain a distinction between the civil and the military power.

    loose rhetoric like Trump's tends to erode it. domestic errands like sending the US Army to police the US border erodes it.

    words matter. actions matter. the trend is unsettling.
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    Border security is a domestic errand?
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    traditionally, yes.

    this is not comparable to Pancho Villa.
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    it's not even an emergency.
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    are you familiar with the Posse Comitatus Act?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurraider21
    "will end this country"
    You're right the country will still exist but it will suck. Sorry for not being clear.
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    why will it suck?

    too many Asians, or too many Hispanics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMC
    it's not surprising that you're having difficulty understanding.

    we dont all have to like every single thing in the cons ution. the government is still bound by it, and we expect them to follow it. we all appreciate stability.

    for instance, i've been on record here stating that i'm not a fan of the electoral college. but if some president tried to scrap it in favor of a popular vote via executive order, i'd be completely against it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winehole23
    tell me, SpurTalkers, what kind of political leader deliberately creates chaos, instability and strife?
    One that recognizes significant issues in the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winehole23
    are you familiar with the Posse Comitatus Act?
    Well, now now... don’t be bringing difficult words here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winehole23
    tell me, SpurTalkers, what kind of political leader deliberately creates chaos, instability and strife?
    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan89
    One that recognizes significant issues in the country.
    Wut?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    Well, now now... don’t be bringing difficult words here...
    Chris seems to think that Trump can order his military to do anything he pleases, even within US borders.
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    So can we deport Ivanka, Uday, and Qusay since Ivana wasn't a citizen at their birth, making them all anchor babies?
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    Harry Reid's 1993 claim that 'no sane country' would provide birthright citizenship fuels GOP immigration push
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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline bum
    So can we deport Ivanka, Uday, and Qusay since Ivana wasn't a citizen at their birth, making them all anchor babies?
    We can fix the law now and make it a sane country like Harry Reid wanted
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducks
    We can fix the law now and make it a sane country like Harry Reid wanted
    Anchor babies good now
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducks
    Harry Reid's 1993 claim that 'no sane country' would provide birthright citizenship fuels GOP immigration push
    No one in this thread wants your opinion, puddle
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducks
    Harry Reid's 1993 claim that 'no sane country' would provide birthright citizenship fuels GOP immigration push
    Was that around the time Trump was a Democrat, tbh?
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