That's like 90 percent of these half court set plays. The other ten percent are four guys around the arc and and a spoke man in the middle for a pass-in and kick out when the double team comes. Really boring to watch, honestly. Really sad. RIP NBA Basketball.
Agreed man. No offensive imagination these days. Plus you have teams without the personnel also being forced to play like that like the Heat (sans Ellington and Waiters). Or you get disasters like when the Rox flamed out at the 3 point line against the Dubs. Sure, analytics pros will say it was a "statistical aberration," but it's disturbing that a team with all that talent didn't try to mix it up.
great point. Should be a balance. Denver at leas feeds Jokic and Nola,Spurs and Lakers has some variance too but overall not only is defense non-existent but the game is prone to even wilder, larger swings as teams shoot themselves in and out of games.
Now sometimes it leads to great comebacks which can be cool but then you also get blowouts like Spurs/suns or Sacto dropping 140 on a bunch of scrubs.
Glad I did not buy full LP ...
I bought Lakers only and will rely on Mavs locally and TNT/ABC/ESPN for free ish I dont even have NBATV anymore ...
Casuals love it though.
People hate this. But people also hated the early 2000s Spurs and Pistons defensive style that would see 75-70 scores. The early 80s “golden age” some try to be nostalgic about wasn’t much different than this, minus the volume three point shooting. Lots of wide open transition, early shot attempts, no defense. In some ways, those 80s Nuggets and Suns teams under guys like McLeod and Doug Moe were forefathers to this style. I mean think of Showtime and Run TMC around the same time. Same style, but minimal three attempts.
The proliferated use of the three point shot just really has thrown a wrench into everything. Stylistically, it’s not bad when three point shots are made at a normalized rate. If both teams can make 30-40% of their attempts, then the game can remain aesthetically acceptable. It’s when for example a Golden State hits 18-of-31 and their opposing Hawks team go 2-for-19 that games can get ugly and quickly. The wide variance game to game can see a great watch one night turn into unwatchable the next.
There isn’t much we can do about it. The success of Golden State and to a lesser extent Houston have had in recent years will continue to see teams follow in those footsteps. And for like 15-20 years, adjusted rules and interpretation of those rules have pretty much all favored offense, with perhaps the only exception of the Durant swim through move foul not being a shooting foul anymore. It also starts in high school and AAU when 6’9+ kids with NBA level talent and athleticism are focusing on one-on-one isolation moves and dunking and three point shooting. Regardless of the rules, we won’t see much change from this style until the talent changes and moves from it. Shaq and Hakeem and Duncan don’t exist in today’s league. Now they’re Boogie Cousins attempting five threes a game, DeAndre Jordan whose only scoring skill is “dunk ball,” and Andre Drummond who regularly shoots airball hook shots from 5 feet away. This style will persist until the elite talent starts playing a different way.
Good luck with that.
probably for spacing so the slashers have room to operate. Are the spurs the same way now with DeRozan?
Most people love this style of play. Ratings are up. The NBA has never been in a better place.
No surprise high volume 3 point shooting has become the game's most efficient offense. Millennials are, after all, path-of-least-resistance kind of people. NBA's fault for not fixing it. But hey, ratings.
Post Duncan Era has been pretty ty tbh
When Coach K @ Duke accepted isolation plays, I knew the sport was in trouble.
Some great points but even Lakers, Celts, Jazz Sixers Hawks and Bucks played some defense that is why they were the best teams of that era none were the Pistons... But compared to most of the teams today with these wack rules they would be a top 10 defense all of them... Plus they actually ran half court sets.
Most Euro steps would've been called travel in the 80's.
No doubt the new rules were implemented so that teams score more and at a faster pace = more points = more entertaining to the casual fans
The physicality is also gone. Advanced stats/analytics nerds are taking over the game before our very eyes. The nerds can't play ball but can dictate it, which is why the game is different now.
Yet somehow the injuries remain the same as it was 20 years ago. Even though the game is far less physical and players are playing way less minutes than the previous generation all stars.
Dont get me wrong obviously if your a true warrior fan it is heaven right now but the game is boring now. They praise Klay for dropping 50 but I mean if you are a real shooter and that is your job and if you ahoot 24 of them against no defense how is that truly impressive? Idk back then dude would have been knocked down for doing all that bull . Running up the score
This
If he played in a less 3 pt centric era he wouldn't have those numbers and would be another Crag Ehl
A lot of shooters today are just inflating their stats.
15 rebounds for DD.
Today's NBA
Ratings are up for a few different reasons
A) ESPN, Disney family and TNT advertise/discuss/air NBA far more today
B) Social media for fans and players
C) American society as a whole being more accepting of black culture
NBA importing International players and selling the sport overseas was a concentrated and calculated effort. Credit is deserved. The current success is mostly elements out of the NBA's hands
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The most interesting player there was Giannis tbh.
Nostalgia, it's so strong
ICE Cream truck driverNostalgia, it's so strong
He's interesting in any era; but the overall state of NBA via the rule changes is disastrous for the purists.
Cherry picking. And let's be honest, 1986 MJ was lightning fast. Nobody should be pretending that Lebron ever had anything close to MJ's speed. And anyone calling the 86 C's crap is a big-time idiot.Nostalgia, it's so strong
Cherry picking. And let's be honest, 1986 MJ was lightning fast. Nobody should be pretending that Lebron ever had anything close to MJ's speed. And anyone calling the 86 C's crap is a big-time idiot. This is decent from a satirical perspective; but if he really believes that , he doesn't know basketball.Nostalgia, it's so strong
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