it's not like we had both TD and Admiral playing in their prime together.... unlike kobe/shaq who were at their peak during their championship run.
people have always done this to try to minimize Tim Duncan (the real spur culture ) compared to other basketball legends (Shaq, Kobe, Lebron, KG, etc....)
it's not like we had both TD and Admiral playing in their prime together.... unlike kobe/shaq who were at their peak during their championship run.
Spur culture that we know started with drob and avery
Pop might come across as an asshole, may very well be. Still, unlike Phil, he acknowledges the greatness and accomlishments of his players. He has long made it known that his accolades are a direct result of the hard work, sacrifice, and performance of his players and the work of his coaching staff.
If Duncan goes to Orlando with Tmac , it’s over for the league
well, he may be overrated, but it's not really arguable that he's the best bball coach of all time. Not even a legitimate compe ion tbh.
Current Pop overrated? Sure. Pop in our Spurs’ heyday/all time? Absolutely not. Anyone who says otherwise is blowing with the wind or a total idiot.
Give the guy a break. He got sabotaged by his chosen heir, plus injuries to his budding All NBA Defensive team, 1st pick, White, losing Green and Kyle’s defense. The best he got in return is a mid-range shooter whose bball style is outdated in today’s bball. And it’s not like San Antonio is the dream destination for FA’s that everyone come knocking. It’s unfair to judge when he has to coach scrubs. I always say other teams have their Timmy/DRob (not prime as a matter of fact when he played with Timmy). How many playoffs did Kobe/Shaq miss? Ewing, Barkeley, Stockton/Malone, TMac/Ming, Iverson. The last time I checked they’re HOF’s. Any rings? Zero. We had 21 years straight playoff appearances, 5 rings, Division les, etc. Spurs fans are spoiled and easily take for granted what RC/Pops assembled throughout the years. While 4 years only the beautiful game with aging big 3 and a 2nd year budding star sent LeBron (at his prime) and the banana boat packing. That alone should erase any questions about Pops ability as coach period. Nope he’s not overrated and it’s a sad day when he finally packs up and gone. Knowing Pops he first wants to fix the mess that Kiwi left, before he calls it quits. For now I appreciate Pops for all he’s done to the city of San Antonio. Cheers
Exactly. That is why I said this current fan base is spoiled. Appreciate what the man did to San Antonio, to TD, Tony and Manu, etc. because you may not see that again in your lifetime. Carried by TD, Tony and Manu? Seriously. Who are you to say that especially when all of you haven't coached a single team in the NBA. The Spurs utilized what they have - late picks, D-leaguers, unknowns and then still have a winning record against all the other teams. Let's see that replicated in your lifetime. The glass is half full, you all are seeing it half empty. Sheesh.
One can appreciate and still recognize it’s time to step away.
skip needs someone to pay attention to him
Oh yeah let's not blame Pop for trading Green, not resigning Anderson, not playing Walker or Moore when they better than Cunningham, resigning Patty Mills for 50 million and signing a bunch of scrubs who can't play defense. That ain't Pop's fault...who's fault is it then? Did RC play Pop? You don't make sense. Pop is to blame cause Pop assembled the roster
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The irony is that Pop most likely agrees. He has always attributed his success to TD, TP, Manu, etc.
LMA and DDR are more talented than all the clippers
Tim Duncan effect
AGREED............DUNCAN GAVE KACHOKE 2 DPOY AWARD..............
More like over for Duncan.
With Grant Hill's albatross of a long term deal, it's unlikely Orlando could have competed at the highest level even if Duncan came.
Orlando also had an incompetent FO which would (and did) screw up any potential advantage (like having the No. 1 pick in the NBA Draft two years in a row).
Moreover, there's no guarantee that TMac even would have been with the Magic if Duncan came -- it would have been hard to get three max-level FAs (TD, Hill and TMac) all in the same summer.
I think TMac would have been jettisoned by Orlando if TD and Hill both committed (despite Orlando's claims to the contrary). Then Duncan would have been stuck with Grant Hill's max deal and no help whatsoever on the court for years on end . . .
There is a reason I didn’t mention grant hill. If Duncan could win in 2003 with our lineup and in 2005 with Parker Getting his pushed in, surely you’re smart enough to believe him teaming with the best 2g in the game, who took Detroit to 7 by himself, would have ruled the EC. TMAC wouldn’t have gone anywhere. He didn’t leave Houston playing with the often injured Yao did he? Yea , another “Popovich made Duncan” post in disguise. This is what I’m talking about.
We’ll see in the Olympics. Not even if they win, but how easy they win.
Someone mentioned Pop stabbing Bob Hill in the back. Reminds me of the guy he just passed on the All Time Wins list stabbing Stan Van Gundy in the back and who was over rated as well.
Pop the coach is flawed but has enough attributing qualities to be the greatest coach of all time. Pop the person is flawed just like the rest of us are but I think for the most part he tries to do good. Some of his political comments have bothered me, sometimes I'm not a fan of how he treats some of the local media members, but at the same time I've met him in person once saw firsthand how he treats people and well he doesn't seem so bad after all. Politically, maybe he just sees the world differently than I do. But in coaching he's arguably accomplished more than anybody and as a person he's accomplished more in humanitarianism than most people so who are we to judge the guy. If he's a little arrogant and hypocritical at times well it does seem that's human nature.
Hill was a monkey who had lost the locker room. He took the credit when they won, and threw specific players under the bus when they didn't. The players approached Pop and ASKED him to get rid of Hill.
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