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    Obviously I'd dispute the equivalence of your examples but that's irrelevant.
    Obviously. Because you love hyperbolic bull when it suits your irrational concerns.

    What makes my comment different is the simultaneous push for getting rid of guns while pushing the narrative that the president is Hitler and the government is currently running concentration camps. It's the combination of the two that matters. Not just some point you've deemed incorrect.
    No one's pushing for getting rid of guns, though. That's hyperbole and a straw man.

    And no one's called the President Hitler.

    Meanwhile, more hyperbole that I'm sure you're fine with:


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    Back on topic, if the point of detaining Central American refugees is to deter others, that amounts to collective punishment of civilians detained without legal process.

    The overcrowding is horrific. In some facilities people have no space to sit or lie down for weeks. We feed them spoiled food; we deny them soap, toothpaste and blankets.

    Y'all should read the DHS IG report I posted upstream. I'd be interested to know who's still cool with the camps after doing so.
    Anyone?

    TSA?

    DarrinS?

    Chris?

    koriwhat?

    Spurtacular?

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    ICE is failing to meet its own ins utional standards according to the OIG. Shouldn't there be repercussions for that?

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    Remember when this was a manufactured crisis?
    DJT's policies of punitive detention and family separation have created an additional humanitarian crisis, no doubt about it.

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    Berlin stole my heart then I went to Krakow

    Kazimierz > Kruezberg
    OFLAG Villa Kreuzberg.

    15,000 Polish patriots went there during and after the 1939 invasion. The record I see isn't too clear what happened to the Poles at that camp after 1940. Maybe you have something to say.

    I am heartily sorry for the sacrifice your family made and I salute them.

    https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk...of-war-1939-45

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    Not responsive.

    After reading the OIG reports, are you still cool with the camps?

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    Who's going to hold ICE accountable for missing its own professional marks?

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    Not responsive.

    After reading the OIG reports, are you still cool with the camps?
    Sure. I'm not a snowflake like you.

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    Sure. I'm not a snowflake like you.
    "you're not manly enough to approve of concentration camps"

    reminds me of frostking's shtick of having to be alpha to be racist

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    Philo buying into the Holocaust propaganda hook line and sinker

    "AOC is very attractive"

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    "you're not manly enough to approve of concentration camps"

    reminds me of frostking's shtick of having to be alpha to be racist
    I don't have shtick. I don't cry about people having to suffer the consequences of illegality.

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    Philo buying into the Holocaust propaganda hook line and sinker

    "AOC is very attractive"
    where did i mention the holocaust?

    shes the most attractive member of congress, imo. not a very high bar to clear. dno why ur so hung up on that, as its not relevant to any merits of ideas

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    I don't have shtick. I don't cry about people having to suffer the consequences of illegality.
    Punishment without a trial at law is frowned pretty much everywhere in the world, except this forum.

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    Who thinks mass detention without trial under conditions worse than prison is a normal and reasonable consequence of having crossed a border without permission?

    Sound off, ST.

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    Philo buying into the Holocaust propaganda hook line and sinker

    "AOC is very attractive"
    Did you read the OIG reports on current conditions at BP and ICE facilities?

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    Sure. I'm not a snowflake like you.
    You read the reports?

    What stood out for you?

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    Convicted murderers, rapists and pedos receive better treatment in detention than Central American migrants never tried or convicted of anything.

    That's pretty screwed up.

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    Years Ago, the Border Patrol’s Discipline System Was Denounced as “Broken.” It’s Still Not Fixed.

    An expert panel’s pleas for swifter, more consistent, more transparent punishment of rogue agents languish.

    U.S. Customs and Border Protection seemed in crisis, and the panel subsequently determined that the agency was plagued by

    a system that allowed bad actors to stay on the payroll for years after they’d engaged in egregious, even criminal, misconduct.

    the panel — headed by William Bratton, who had run police departments in Boston, New York City and Los Angeles — was deeply concerned about

    the persistent strain of lawlessness among CBP employees.

    In a preliminary 2015 report, the panel had noted that

    “arrests for corruption of CBP personnel far exceed, on a per capita basis, such arrests at other federal law enforcement agencies.”

    CBP, the panel’s members concluded, was

    “vulnerable to corruption that threatens its effectiveness and national security.”

    CBP officials rejected taking away civil service protections in part because it would anger the union representing Border Patrol agents.

    The administration of President Donald Trump has pledged to take the “handcuffs off” law enforcement agents as part of an aggressive push to stem the flow of migrants across the country’s southern border.

    The performance of Border Patrol agents was one element of the widespread outrage provoked by the administration’s decision to separate children from their parents at the border.

    the prospects for lengthy and lasting reforms of CBP have dimmed under the current administration.

    Every year, approximately 250 CBP employees are arrested, many on su ion of serious felonies;

    dozens have been jailed in recent years on corruption charges,

    including weapons trafficking and collaborating with Mexican drug cartels.


    Shootings dropped precipitously.

    But complaints of physical and verbal abuse by migrants taken into custody have not

    According to a CBP do ent,

    each year the agency “receives and reviews hundreds of allegations” of excessive force.

    This year, CBP paid $125,000 to settle a lawsuit alleging that a Border Patrol agent groped the breasts and genitals of two teenage Guatemalan girls

    https://www.propublica.org/article/b...till-not-fixed

    Sounds like typical American law enforcement, criminal, brutal, sadistic



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    i'm not for housing any of them. ship their ass back to the rio grande river and 300 their ass into it. brown, black, white, yellow, blue, red, green, whatever color or creed they are idc because they aren't citizens of the USA! it's time we start worrying about our own and crying about the world's problems isn't something i give a about.

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    Convicted murderers, rapists and pedos receive better treatment in detention than Central American migrants never tried or convicted of anything.

    That's pretty screwed up.
    yeah it is and those found red handed to be the murderers, rapists, and pedos that they are should be strung up from the highest bridge and shot point blank on nat'l tv.

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    its not a day on spurstalk until koriwhat demands the death of multiple people

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    Yeah but, if we detain them we're responsible for them, koriwhat.

    They are human beings, after all.

    Don't you worry about reciprocity? What if you got detained in Central America?

    Hope they wouldn't hold it against you just because of where you're from and how we treated them when they were in the pokey.
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    Who thinks mass detention without trial under conditions worse than prison is a normal and reasonable consequence of having crossed a border without permission?

    Sound off, ST.
    only koriwhat had the balls to speak his mind so far.

    Y'all sheepish about saying what you really think?

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