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    Not only are Democrats advocating for illegals to vote https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...igrant-voting/
    Democrats declined to intervene on local school board election rules. You prefer a big government approach? Do you think this supports RC's claim that migrants are being brought in to vote? For local school boards in a few scattered cities? Seems like overkill, tbh.

    Great headline, though. An example of why The Washington Times has such a stellar reputation.

    ...but illegals are actually now able to vote through a loophole:

    https://nypost.com/2019/06/18/law-gr...o-voter-fraud/
    They are not "now able to vote" as a very topline reading of that article would tell you. I'm not sure why you think illegals are going to risk deportation to vote in New York anyway.

    A study also supports 5.7 million noncitizens may have voted in the 2008 elections (Obama)

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-than-estimat/
    This study is laughable on its face and has been debunked by the very people who conducted the survey used to arrive at this conclusion. Once again, Washington Times.

    You have to be bafflingly and incurably stupid to believe that 5.7 million non-citizens voted in 2008, especially given that not a single one was caught doing so. Do you have any idea how big a number 5.7 million is?

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    broadening expedited removal is a recipe for inadvertently deporting US citizens.

    once ICE detains you, there's no right to see a lawyer. one US citizen spent three years detained by ICE. (https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...htmlstory.html)


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    My POV in this thread is that undo ented immigrants cannot register to vote in any state, so the idea that they're being brought across the border to vote is not supported in reality. My link is a primary source supporting this POV by providing information on the registration and voting process.

    Perhaps you should have been more specific on what links you were hoping to see.
    but theres an initiatave to allow them to vote on a school board election in that one school district!

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    US citizen detained by ICE for three weeks.

    Now that ICE can detain people without a warrant anywhere in the US, it might be a good idea to start carrying your papers, you know, in case someone wants to check if you belong here.

    “I presented then with his original birth certificate and other do ents and they ignored them. So now I’ve faxed over all the do ents to the ICE agent handling the case,” Galan said. “He’s going on a full month of being wrongfully detained. He’s a U.S. citizen and he needs to be released now.”
    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immi...ed-three-weeks

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    Brown US citizen detained for three weeks. Here come the victim blamers.

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    detained = deported

    Got it, thanks.

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    detained = deported

    Got it, thanks.
    US citizens shouldn't be detained for lacking proof of citizenship.

    US citizens have been detained by ICE for up to three years.

    In the 1930s, up to a million US citizens were deported because they were brown.

    It could happen again.

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    detained = deported

    Got it, thanks.
    For those keeping score...

    US Citizen detained = Fine, because he's not being deported

    US Citizen being banned from Twitter = ABSOLUTE OUTRAGE

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    ICE has no reason to hold this guy. His family has already submitted bona fide proof of US birth.

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    ICE has no reason to hold this guy. His family has already submitted bona fide proof of US birth.
    It's a message.

    I wouldn't be surprised if ICE pitched the story to the DMN.

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    Is Luca Brasi sleeping with the fishes?

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    Is Luca Brasi sleeping with the fishes?
    Nope.

    A US citizen is being lawlesssly detained by ICE.

    The ostensible message ia that any brown US citizen can be deprived of his/her liberty and rights without due process of law.

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    Nope.

    A US citizen is being lawlesssly detained by ICE.

    The ostensible message ia that any brown US citizen can be deprived of his/her liberty and rights without due process of law.
    Ah, the white privilege thingy.

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    Ah, the white privilege thingy.
    If ICE/BP doesn't accept US Passports and US birth certificates as proof of citizenship, under the new guidelines for expedited removal, any American at all might be detained and deported.

    For some reason though, these "mistakes" mainly seem to happen to "non-European" folks.

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    If ICE didn't accept your passport or birth certificate as proof of citizenship, and you had no lawyer, how would you prove it, Chris?

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    ICE's record of deporting US citizens prior to the broadening of expedited rules does not inspire great confidence:

    ICE has been detaining and deporting U.S. citizens for decades,” said Jackie Stevens, a political science professor at Northwestern University. That policy came at a great cost to U.S. taxpayers in terms of litigation and compensation, she added.

    U.S. citizens account for about 1% percent of those detained by ICE and about 0.5% of those deported, according to Stevens’ research.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1UH275

    the original research by Jackie Stevens: https://jacquelinestevens.org/US-Unl...SP18.32011.pdf

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    "Mistakes were made"

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    If ICE didn't accept your passport or birth certificate as proof of citizenship, and you had no lawyer, how would you prove it, Chris?
    Would never happen, Chris is white and also never leaves the house.

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    ICE's record of deporting US citizens prior to the broadening of expedited rules does not inspire great confidence:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1UH275

    the original research by Jackie Stevens: https://jacquelinestevens.org/US-Unl...SP18.32011.pdf
    A Poly Sci professor doesn't agree with ICE's methods. What a surprise.

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    A Poly Sci professor doesn't agree with ICE's methods. What a surprise.
    Why are you OK with deporting US citizens, Chris?

    Explain.

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    Francisco Galicia lost 26 pounds during his detention.

    Https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immi...like-immigrant

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    Francisco Galicia lost 26 pounds during his detention.

    Https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immi...like-immigrant
    Good now he is in better health he should thank the USA

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    Good now he is in better health he should thank the USA
    this is why people say you're a piece of . not because you are conservative.

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    Good now he is in better health he should thank the USA
    Mr.Galicia was already in good shape. He was on the way to a soccer tryout when he was detained. Then he lost 26 pounds in 23 days in a filthy, overcrowded cell.

    It'll take him awhile to get his muscle tone back.

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    Good now he is in better health he should thank the USA
    Do you want to be detained like that, ducks?

    Yes or no.

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