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    I think that we can all agree that regulated legal immigration is a good thing and unregulated illegal immigration is a bad thing.

    What do you suggest as a reasonable compromise to promote legal immigration and curb illegal immigration that both political parties could agree on?

    Lets see some ideas.

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    I think that we can all agree that regulated legal immigration is a good thing and unregulated illegal immigration is a bad thing.

    What do you suggest as a reasonable compromise to promote legal immigration and curb illegal immigration that both political parties could agree on?

    Lets see some ideas.
    Give everyone coming over a comprehensive health exam. And also a lie detector test to find out what their intentions are.
    Then put chips in them and monitor them for 2 years.

    Will that work?

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    Hire more immigration judges and kill the backlog of cases.

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    Make it illegal to hire undocumented immigrants. Oh wait it’s already illegal. Then how about just enforcing it?
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    The ones here now make them legal in 25 years or get out come back in
    Fine them 2k a year all money for wall
    Stop making kids USA citizens just because mom is in US
    Must be legal citizen
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    There are roughly 312 million people in the United States. There are Roughly 357 million guns. There are Approximately 32,000 deaths per year from firearms. 60% are Suicides. That is 19,220 3% are Accidental. That is 960. 4% are justified. That is 1,200 33% are Homicides. That is 10,560. 80% of those Homicides are Gang related. That is 8,488. That leaves 1,713 in a society of 312 million people. That gives you a 0.010256410256% chance of death by gun. A 0.008564% chance if you don't hang out in the hood not planning a crime and not planning on committing suicide. The United States Does Not have a Gun problem.

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    Make it illegal to hire undocumented immigraifnts. Oh wait itís already illegal. Then how about just enforcing it?
    They would just get food stamps from gov if not working



    Coming here is illegal already if not doing it the right way
    Just enforce it

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    People that are not legal USA citizens do not have the same rights as people in the USA

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    anyone born in the US (except for the children of diplomats) is a US citizen, period. that's the law.

    the US Congress knew what they were doing when they passed the 14th Amendment and the Civil Rights Act of 1866. it's easily checkable.

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    Make it illegal to hire undocumented immigrants. Oh wait itís already illegal. Then how about just enforcing it?
    I agree with this. Every employer should be required to use everify and the current laws against hiring should be rigidly enforced. Using everify also snags child support dodgers as an additional benefit.

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    well.....not the ones that work for trump of course.

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    I’m not a fan of illegal immigration myself, but I’d like to understand what specific problems we’re trying to address?

    I can only think of crime-related, bad elements coming in, mostly national security.

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    what specific problems we’re trying to address?
    "we"? not we

    but Trash is inflaming, suckering his white nationalist/nativist base, with racist Nazi Stephen Miller and his accomplices.

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    I’m not a fan of illegal immigration myself, but I’d like to understand what specific problems we’re trying to address?

    I can only think of crime-related, bad elements coming in, mostly national security.
    I think most of us in here (besides Boutons) realize how lucky we were to be born in the US. We also get that it must suck to be born in a shithole country with a crappy government and no economic upward mobility. At the same time we simply have no need for uneducated, marginally employable economic immigrants that can't speak the language and can't assimilate into becoming productive citizens in our advanced economy.

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    Make it illegal to hire undocumented immigrants. Oh wait it’s already illegal. Then how about just enforcing it?
    Conservative asscheeks clench up when you start talking about stiffer penalties for employers who hire illegals. They (rightfully so) hate illegal immigration but don’t want to entertain the common sense deterrent of making less jobs available to illegals.
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    The ones here now make them legal in 25 years or get out come back in
    Fine them 2k a year all money for wall
    Stop making kids USA citizens just because mom is in US
    Must be legal citizen
    all this so you can pee pee on them?

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    I’m not a fan of illegal immigration myself, but I’d like to understand what specific problems we’re trying to address?

    I can only think of crime-related, bad elements coming in, mostly national security.
    I think a long term issue is jobs. BigRobot will continue to replace HumanAmericans in the work force. What are all these new people going to do?

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    Make it illegal to hire undocumented immigrants. Oh wait itís already illegal. Then how about just enforcing it?
    Jail time for hiring illegals is the only way it would work. Which is why it's not done. Conservatives in power love demonizing illegals but don't want to really stop them from working here for fear of what it could do to raise wages.

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    Conservative asscheeks clench up when you start talking about stiffer penalties for employers who hire illegals. They (rightfully so) hate illegal immigration but don’t want to entertain the common sense deterrent of making less jobs available to illegals.
    No, they hate illegals but nothing conservatives have done in power makes me think they don't like illegal immigration.

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    . At the same time we simply have no need for uneducated, marginally employable economic immigrants that can't speak the language and can't assimilate into becoming productive citizens in our advanced economy.
    The majority of illegal immigrants for the last five years or so overstay valid visas, are college degreed and English speaking.

    The present and future of immigration to the US is from Asia.

    You and the most of the posters are fixed on the wave of the past. Central American immigration will never completely go away, but to push it forward as typical of the aggregate is misleading at best, ignorant at worst.

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    Americans aren't going to work as abused, poisoned, underpaid/unpaid ag / farm hands

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    Conservative asscheeks clench up when you start talking about stiffer penalties for employers who hire illegals. They (rightfully so) hate illegal immigration but donít want to entertain the common sense deterrent of making less jobs available to illegals.
    If we're talking about Central American migrants, here's gotta be a clearer legal pathway to work. Agriculture, construction and hospitality need the workers and boutons isn't wrong that that some of these jobs (agriculture) Americans simply won't do.

    An aging workforce, a below replacement birth rate and full employment might mean that we need much more immigration, not much less.

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    I think most of us in here (besides Boutons) realize how lucky we were to be born in the US. We also get that it must suck to be born in a shithole country with a crappy government and no economic upward mobility. At the same time we simply have no need for uneducated, marginally employable economic immigrants that can't speak the language and can't assimilate into becoming productive citizens in our advanced economy.
    Well Iím personally not on the lucky boat of being born in the US, so I canít relate to that.

    I donít particularly see a jobs problem either, weíve been shifting manufacturing overseas for a long time. Standard of living, law and order and justice system, I think, are a bigger enticement, but again, those are factors for outsiders to come in, not something that causes problems for people living here already.

    If our economy needs largely uneducated daily laborers, I also donít see a problem with that, supply and demand. I do draw the line at people that are unwilling to follow the law.

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    But then who will wash the bed sheets at Mar Del Lago

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    Anyways, I think the thread title goes into the heart of why you would want an ordered immigration process: security. The entire immigration debate is much bigger than that though.

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    I think that we can all agree that regulated legal immigration is a good thing and unregulated illegal immigration is a bad thing.

    What do you suggest as a reasonable compromise to promote legal immigration and curb illegal immigration that both political parties could agree on?

    Lets see some ideas.
    How about we form an agency that patrols the border looking for illegal immigrants

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