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    Little Marco has gone off the deep end

    Holy living in bizarro world



    Getting obliterated in the responses to take care of opening US government first

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    This attempted coup will go way of the Erdo coup which means nowhere. As long as Maduro keeps his supreme court and his military that is.

    Also if US threatens to attack, Maduros people which are majority of the poor will take to the streets en masse in the millions and nothing can be done at that point.

    It would be some next level twilight zone if the fake president asks US military to come help and Pence says ok. Maduro should respond in kind and ask Russian/Turkish/Chinese military to come in

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    he would certainly give a big about VZ not exporting oil to limit supply and perhaps VZ becoming an importer.
    Russia has billions of dollars of loans to Venezuela that they pay back in oil. another fun fact is they are building a Kalashnikov factory in Nicaragua that is ready to come on line.

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    Just let Democratic socialism run it's natural course.
    By “natural” course you mean US blocking access to international financial markets and getting your gold confiscated by UK amiright?

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    Factbox: Oil, loans, military - Russia's exposure to Venezuela

    Of late, Moscow has become Venezuela’s lender of last resort, with the government and Rosneft (
    ROSN.MM)

    handing Venezuela at least $17 billion in loans and credit lines since 2006,

    Below is data on Russia’s involvement with Venezuela.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-v...2F+Top+News%29

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    Unorthodox imperialist move

    More brazen than gulf of tonkin, panama coup or mexican american war. US just decided to make up their own alternative facts from one day to another.

    Reminds me of the passage of 1984 that goes something like “the Party imposed a lie and all followers accepted the lie and it passed into history and became truth. The Party told you to reject the evidence from your eyes and ears”

    And their motives to believe this will work “who controls the past, controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past”

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    Putin gives zero s about Venezuela.

    Dont think so. Russia has heavy investments in Russia. They also in their response said Venezuella is an “ally” of Russia (key word and very telling) and warned of “catastrophic” consequences if Empire continues their attack.

    It hasnt happened yet because Venezuela is no Panama, they actually have decent air defenses including 8 brigades of s300 same ones that defend syria. Chavez was smart he also has about a 2 million man militia on stand by. Because of this not brazil nor colombia dare intervene militarily. A US attack wild take some time to organize as they would need a massive force. But this brazen act by Imperialists is a huge sign violent days are ahead.
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    By “natural” course you mean US blocking access to international financial markets and getting your gold confiscated by UK amiright?
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-v...-idUSKCN1OP0RZ

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    So losing world financial markets and their gold reserves have nothing to do with it amiright?

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    Dont think so. Russia has heavy investments in Russia. They also in their response said Venezuella is an “ally” of Russia (key word and very telling) and warned of “catastrophic” consequences if Empire continues their attack.

    It hasnt happened yet because Venezuela is no Panama, they actually have decent air defenses including 8 brigades of s300 same ones that defend syria. Chavez was smart he also has about a 2 million man militia on stand by. Because of this not brazil nor colombia dare intervene militarily. A US attack wild take some time to organize as they would need a massive force. But this brazen act by Imperialists is a huge sign violent days are ahead.
    I was thinking in relative terms. I'm not sure gives enough but we'll see. I'm not a fan of maduro, but I'm personally sick amd tired of US Lies and propaganda. Millions of innocents have died in the ME and same thing will happen in the south america if the US keeps meddeling.

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    Events to watch in next few hours nigas:
    - US response to Russian statements. Will they double down? Ya betcha
    - but but why would Putin puppet at the WH attack a Putin ally??? Can someone on the resitanze explain?
    - US diplomats in Caracas are told to stay put by US after told by Maudro to GTFO. US artificially creating a diplomatic crisis.....

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    - but but why would Putin puppet at the WH attack a Putin ally??? Can someone on the resitanze explain?
    Good question.

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    Events to watch in next few hours nigas:
    - US response to Russian statements. Will they double down? Ya betcha
    - but but why would Putin puppet at the WH attack a Putin ally??? Can someone on the resitanze explain?
    - US diplomats in Caracas are told to stay put by US after told by Maudro to GTFO. US artificially creating a diplomatic crisis.....
    Cant maduro just ship their assess out?

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    It's all about how the military flips. They are going to have to get assurances from the new guys they wont be prosecuted and can keep the mordita they have banked.

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    Cant maduro just ship their assess out?
    Lunatic Pence and Little Marco would call this a “violent aggression” against our diplomats and start the bombing campaign

    uS is actually probably baiting Maduro with this

    What Maduro should do is cut the power to the embassy buildings and call it a day

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    It's all about how the military flips. They are going to have to get assurances from the new guys they wont be prosecuted and can keep the mordita they have banked.

    Military already stated they support Maduro:



    Only chance this has is some generals rebel but this is a long shot
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    Venezuela has elections. Juan Guaido has never even been a Presidential candidate. Despite massive CIA opposition funding and interference over years as Big Oil tries to regain control of the World’s largest oil reserves, Nicolas Maduro was democratically re-elected in 2018 as President of Venezuela.

    The coup now under way is illegitimate.

    When I was in the FCO, the rule on recognition was very plain and very openly stated – the UK recognised the government which had “effective control of the territory”, whatever the attributes of that government. This is a very well established principle of international law. There were very rare exceptions involving continuing to support ousted governments. The pre-1939 Polish government in exile was the most obvious example, though once Nazism was defeated Britain moved to recognise the Communist government actually in charge, to the fury of exiled Poles. I was involved in the question of the continued recognition of President Kabbah of Sierra Leone during the period in which he was ousted by military coup.

    But I can think of no precedent at all for recognising a President who does not have and has never had control of the country – and has never been a candidate for President. This idea of the West simply trying to impose a suitably corrupt and biddable leader is really a very startling development. It is astonishing the MSM commentariat and political class appear to see no problem with it. It is a quite extraordinary precedent, and doubtless will lead to many new imperialist adventures.

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archi...t-be-resisted/

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    The before/after of US freedom:


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    Sure but this is lunatic Mike Pences pet project

    Turn latin america into middle east

    ing lunatic
    They've been doing this in SA for decades, no?

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    They've been doing this in SA for decades, no?
    Not quite the same. Sure US has been sponsoring coups and killing SA presidents for decades. But that job was mainly tasked to CIA covert ops and US trained paramilitary groups of each country.

    This is totally different. This has the potential of an actual civil war with US and other international military involvement.

    To be fair it seems this is also Rubio’s pet project. Its evient Trump has relegated SA command to those 2 lunatics Rubio and Pence.

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    On one hand, it's difficult not to recognize that Maduro is another iteration of the cheap SA dictator, tbh...

    We can talk about him winning elections, but we also would have to gloss over that the Congressional opposition also won their elections, and he not only uncons utionally stripped Congress of all power, but also jailed/persecuted them.

    Or the fact that to get rations from the government you need to show a digital ID card which tells them who you voted for.

    On the other hand, there's the sovereignty argument. The US could've simply not recognized the results of the last elections, and stopped there.

    Recognizing an unelected president and/or getting involved in the internal politics of another nation is the kind of stuff that consistently make the US look bad in the region (or worldwide?).

    No easy answers on this. I suppose the death toll in the next few days will have some sort of incidence on what are the next steps...

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    Also to keep in mind is the regional situation, with resurgent right-wing governments in Brazil/Argentina, and Maduro being one of the last vestiges of the hard left in the region, alongside Evo.

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