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    I mean things like technology. Can't really say 50 years, since they had TVs, etc, but fairly behind
    Sorry but it was kind of a simpleton take to say Cuba is a decade behind in technology

    they are probably more behind in certain or most technology. But Cuba has made great advances in medicine, education and science and in some cases are ahead of most latin american countries

    many people from latin america travel to Cuba to get medical treatment and Cuba sends teams of educators and doctors to many countries very often

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    Oh sorry, In France people can eat and live a normal life, in Venezuela you are a homeless sick dog.
    Everything is the same, as long it fits the lef agenda.
    If French people can eat and live a normal life why are the yellow vests protesting for a month now?

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    Ok, so apparently you give Pinochet credit for economic "growth" (ie privatizing everything) and the world renowned Chilean technology sector (we have cheap imports I guess) - nevermind that inequality in Chile is among the worst of all ocde nations-, and disregard the systematic use of torture and assassination, the 17 years of curfews, or betraying his military oath, brothers, democrátically elected president


    But for Castro what's important is that his people starved, it doesn't matter that he took down a dictator that took power by force, killed thousands and stole 300 million dollars, it doesn't matter that he created an educational system, carried out massive land reform (70% of arable land in hands of foreigners at the time of his revolution), built houses for poor people. And it doesn't matter that one got support from the world biggest super power while the other got every form of antagonism possible, legal and illegal

    If you poll most Chileans they'd choose 50 years of Castro over 25 of Pinochet, all of the benefits of Chile's economic growth is concentrating at the top while health, education and pensions are among the most expensive in the world.

    Sorry but your argument sounds like "I'm rich, and being rich in Chile is better than being rich in Cuba".. yeah that's true. The only problem is that most people in Cuba and most people in Chile are poor...
    Thanks for this

    chile has always been an riddle to me. Many people praise pinochet because he “cleaned up” chile and talk about chiles economy. I did not know inequality was so bad.

    Why dont the socialist parties have more power in chile? Sema like majority chileans should not be happy with current situation

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    International bodies that have previously monitored Venezuelan elections have said their results are legitimate. In 2012, former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, director of the Carter Center for Fair Elections, which oversaw the Venezuela polls, declared:

    As a matter of fact, of the 92 elections that we’ve monitored, I would say the election process in Venezuela is the best in the world.”

    A number of international observers were on hand during the May 20 election and declared the results to be legitimate.

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    little marco has basically become a caricature and being mocked online


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    hater criticizing everyone but Trump for Trump's policy.

    Called it.

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    If French people can eat and live a normal life why are the yellow vests protesting for a month now?
    Are the opposition leaders in jail?
    Is inflation over the roof?
    Is media one sided and spreading lies all day?
    Are they having international reporters detained to see what kind of info they made while being there?



    So a couple of idiots in yellow vests represent the whole France?
    Then Cataluña should be its own country right now, not happening.

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    Are the opposition leaders in jail?
    Is inflation over the roof?
    Is media one sided and spreading lies all day?
    Are they having international reporters detained to see what kind of info they made while being there?



    So a couple of idiots in yellow vests represent the whole France?
    Then Cataluña should be its own country right now, not happening.
    Macron just jailed 5000 ppl

    Most Venezuelan media are actually Maduro haters they are owned by opposition olygarchs

    Couple of idiots in yellow vests? try tens of thousands

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    Are the opposition leaders in jail?
    Is inflation over the roof?
    Is media one sided and spreading lies all day?
    Are they having international reporters detained to see what kind of info they made while being there?



    So a couple of idiots in yellow vests represent the whole France?
    Then Cataluña should be its own country right now, not happening.
    Macron just jailed 5000 ppl

    Most Venezuelan media are actually Maduro haters they are owned by opposition olygarchs

    Couple of idiots in yellow vests? try tens of thousands

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    Macron just jailed 5000 ppl

    Most Venezuelan media are actually Maduro haters they are owned by opposition olygarchs

    Couple of idiots in yellow vests? try tens of thousands
    Yeap, jailed them, opposed to killing them.
    Most Venezuela media is shut down, what are you talking about?
    Where is Capriles? what happened to him?

    Its the equivalent of lots of lef s screaming, these idiots had free wine and cheese for decades, a little adjustment and they get crazy.
    I wish Venezuela had the same problems.

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    Yeap, jailed them, opposed to killing them.
    Most Venezuela media is shut down, what are you talking about?
    Where is Capriles? what happened to him?

    Its the equivalent of lots of lef s screaming, these idiots had free wine and cheese for decades, a little adjustment and they get crazy.
    I wish Venezuela had the same problems.
    Cheese and wine for decades?

    I dont completely disagree with you but Venezuelas problems were also exacerbated due to the economic war waged on them for years from the west

    Protests are protests whether in france or in timbuktu and should be dealt with internally and peacefuly not by organizing a coup from the outside

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    Thanks for this

    chile has always been an riddle to me. Many people praise pinochet because he “cleaned up” chile and talk about chiles economy. I did not know inequality was so bad.

    Why dont the socialist parties have more power in chile? Sema like majority chileans should not be happy with current situation
    It can be argued that the only reason Chile has had some economic success is because of the reforms allende made before being killed- nationalizing copper and reforming agriculture. Those are Chile s main economic activities, and it's hard to say that Pinochet helped there.

    Pinochets main economic accomplishment was curbing inflation with the UF which is basically a mechanism to keep property and capital with a floating value that adjusts daily to inflation. People get paid on pesos, but capital is paid with UF, it's a very regressive system but it works .

    After that, the main success of Chile's economy comes from opening up to trade and investment, but that didn't really happen until the 90s when democracy returned and sanctions were lifted.

    iMO it's lazy to say that Pinochet was responsible for economic success, but in terms of indicators there was progress made during his regime, and since things took off once democracy returned it became a convenient talking point, that thanks to Pinochet the economy improved. I don't think there would have been any improvement if copper wasn't nationalized / land reform enacted. Allende gets crucified for both these actions, when the reality is that Both the UN and the US govt officially recommended land reform for developing nations since the end of the 50s / start of the 60s, it was basic economic sense that people would be poor so long as they were basically serfs to landlords. And of course, any colony with a resource extraction economy, should damn well be getting a big cut of that extraction otherwise it's just giving your wealth away.

    Socialist parties did have quite a bit of power in Chile, since returning to democracy they had 4 consecutive presidencies, followed by one right wing one, another left, and now another right, in other words they've mostly dominated elections since returning to democracy. But during the first 10 years or so, it wasn't real democracy, there were several appointed, lifetime senators pinochet included, the judiciary was completely controlled by the right (arguable it still is), the police and military as well (definitely still are). Those socialist governments lacked the means to make real change and more importantly real justice (there are more open human rights cases now than there were 20 years ago). The election system was setup so that minorities could still win (binominal system), and that allowed the right to keep enough seats to block changes, and when they did get through the supreme Court would annul the changes. And finally, worst of all, those socialist politicians realized they were in the perfect situation- almost guaranteed to be supported, every excuse not to come through with their promises, and money rolling in to the country-they got corrupt and that's how the right won 2 elections ago and again now. That's why when Nobody said Chile always elects center right presidents since returning to democrqcy I didn't quibble- they were socialist on paper but center right in reality, much like the Democrats in the US.

    Of course, the right is even more corrupt, but I doubt anyone is interested in the details, suffice to say our current president was indicted for defrauding a bank (daddy got him off the hook) and keeps his fortune in Panama. His 5 year old grandchildren are owners of multi-million dollar companies. You can imagine what kind of tax reform you'd get from a president like that

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    Sorry nono, my auto correct turned you to Nobody

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    little marc getting obliterated at every tweet


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    So now you're saying Trump ordered a coup.

    lol hater

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    who cares, kill them all!

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    You're all over the place as usual, hater.

    More flexible than consistent, for better and for worse.

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    U.S. steps up pressure on Maduro as Russia backs Venezuelan ally


    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-v...2F+Top+News%29

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    Let me guess Nancy.... Ron Paul is a Russian agent working directly for the Kremlin and a hand puppet of Putin. Amiright, Nancy?

    He worked 22 years in congress under Kremlin orders amiright???

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