He is a ing idiot
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...mpaign-1397850
His campaign says his organization will win out and that predictions of his demise are way premature.Cuckie's demise will be later.
indeed he is.
As is ducks.
forget about ducks for a minute.... you agreed that bernie is a ing idiot!
Bernie is a guy who promises giveaways, just like Trump, but for the middle class and down.forget about ducks for a minute.... you agreed that bernie is a ing idiot!
And...
You just dont forget ducks.
Never.
"I home, fcky my wife. Put my glasses on eyes."
Except neither of them could ever come close to delivering on said promises.
Trump sold the world and the re s of this country flooded the voting booth for him on a false promise and make belief fantasy policies.
Bernie, while coming from a good place couldn't deliver on his lofty promises because his goals would nearly bankrupt the country in doing so.
Bankrupting the country is coming from a good place. Do you ever listen to yourself, eunuch?
Bernie’s healthcare plan is the only one that if the Dem’s plans that doesn’t bankrupt the country.
What would actually bankrupt the country is the “Medicare for those who want it” pipe dream that most Democrats are peddling where people under 65 can opt into Medicare or a comparable public option (ie, the people who are sick and unhealthy and can’t get private insurance) but the people who like their private insurance can keep it.
you're delusional but come 2020 this excuse is going to go out the window because most(those in the middle who didn't vote and even those who voted for a dem in 2016) will vote trump to spite the dem ticket of giving this country over to illegals.
Your mouth is welded to Blake’s penis.
In your head. Get off it.
sexual erotica from a chumpette. Par.
Zero-minute abs!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp
Last edited by Spurtacular; 08-31-2019 at 06:50 AM.
A govt national health care plan covers everybody, and everybody's income, earned and unearned, is deducted to pay for it.
If a government program that one has been contributing to for one's entire working life, that is only tapped into at age 65 is in trouble (in 2026, benefits will be reduced to 89%), what is a govt program that covers everybody from the day they are born until the day they die going to cost?
What do you think is going to happen when there is "free" healthcare for all - hint: everyone is going to try to see a doctor for every little ache, pain, hypochondriac illness/worry, etc.
What do you think will happen to the current medical workers/doctors - salary will be reduced and they will all be overwhelmed by the above or retire since salary won't cover malpractice insurance
What do you think this program will have to do in order to control costs - cut price of drugs, reduce payment for all procedures/tests and reduction in salary of all health workers.
What do you think this program will affect those who really need health care - they will wait in line along with all from the first line to be assessed (longer time to actually see a doc or get tests done)
What do you think will happen to potential future health workers - they will think twice before going into the medical field - many years of study and huge student debt to qualify for little reward.
What do you think will happen to our seniors - eventually, they will be de-emphasized - probably given some kind of rating on whether procedures/surgeries are worth it for their age.
What do you think will happen to businesses and jobs when they are hit with paying for this - businesses will be less likely to hire and there will be fewer jobs/more unemployment.
What do you think will happen to people/families when they are hit with paying their share - they'll have less in their pockets (if they employed).
I'll remind you that there is NO government program that has come even close to anywhere near the projected estimate of what it will cost.
Please feel free to state what you think will happen to these questions.
And to those of you who say why can those European countries do it and we can't - unless the educational, legal and medical systems are all changed, there is little chance of imitating what they do. In Europe, they require less years of education/certification to practice (here an incoming physical therapist, speech therapist and pharmacist require a PHD to practice). Their colleges doesn't cost anywhere near what our do. Some countries administer tests and depending on scores - only certain thresholds can go into certain fields. In Europe, they do not sue each other the way we do in the states - their doctors do not have to carry so much malpractice insurance. All the previous is why they are willing to accept lower salaries and American medical workers are not. We are not even bringing in your $15 minimum wage for totally UNSKILLED workers - where is the equity for pay to these highly SKILLED medical workers?
Add in that many of the drugs are research/developed here in the US and the rest of the world copies what we have - well, there'll be a serious slowdown/end to trying to come up with cures/new drugs since there is no profit incentive.
Income being deducted (not regressive, so no cap) for national health system replaces the wealth-sucking payments skimmed from paychecks to pay Capitalists chasing stock gains and dividends.
Your use of "free" if course repeating the ridiculous lies and ridiculing propaganda from BigHealthCare scares people about a national health system.
We don't hear that BigHealthCare today is "in trouble" so why would a national health health care system be under financed and "in trouble"?
One your biggest lies is that a national health system costs would be in addition to the $3T+ Americans are scammed for, when in fact most of the $3T+ would be transferred to deduction for all uncapped income.
Doctors would be salaried, no more scams of "fee for service".
Some doctors could opt out and continue fee for service to wealthy clients who would pay cash to the doctors, nurses, clinics.
But those wealthy clients would still have to pay ALL of their income deductions to the national system.
And whatever they pay for for-profit, fee-for-service boutique medicine would not be deductible from their national health payments.
Tell it, rmt. Testify!!!
Do you mean to go toward the myriad of government workers (and their pensions) needed to "administer" this program instead? What about the pensions, 401ks, investments etc that invest in those stocks? How will that affect the average American?
It's Medicare that I'm referring to that's "in trouble" - that government program that a worker contributes to his entire working life and only taps into at age 65. And it still doesn't pay all health care. Original Medicare pays iirc 80% of cost. Of course, you could buy a supplemental Medicare Gap policy to cover the rest or opt into a HMO-type (restricted to local area). In addition there's the monthly cost (at least $135/month) of Medicare part B which is deducted from Social Security before you even get the check.
https://www.medicare.gov/your-medica...ts-at-a-glance
What would incentivize anyone to become a doctor? Say someone like Ben Carson - a pediatric neurosurgeon - 4 years undergrad, 4 years med school, 3 years residency EACH for pediatrics, neurology and surgery. What salary would you deem suitable for such as he (keeping in mind controlling costs and $15 minimum wage)? Would you pass laws so that he couldn't be sued and therefore not have to carry malpractice insurance? Would you take over the educational system so that he wouldn't have to pay huge amounts of tuition for studying so long? Would you lower standards so that he wouldn't have to study so long in order to practice? Why would anybody intelligent enough to do that go through all those years of education for the pitiful salary that you deemed enough?
So you admit that there would be a two-tier system - one which would have the best of the best in primary care, drugs, and SPECIALISTS (I guessing the majority of whom would opt into this system) and the other (I'm guessing) which would have adequate/bottom of the class mostly primary care doctors. There will probably be a shortage of specialists, very long waiting lines for the few available and the need to import foreign doctors (UK iirc does this) of all kinds.
Last edited by rmt; 08-31-2019 at 04:28 PM.
Blake you ready to get cucked by Creepy Joe like you were by Crooked Hillary?
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