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  1. #101
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    hey...you never answered as to which receivers left the Saints and were not productive?
    Tons of guys from 09-13 era

    Marquez Colston
    Robert Meachem
    Lance Moore
    Joseph Morgan
    others

    Hell... Jimmy Graham
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    I'll reiterate it:: you beat Brady by playing him the way Belichick beat Jared Goof. Bring the house, tight man coverage, don't give up anything shallow and easy, and make him take chances.
    That's not what you say here when you talk about "hard flat zones"

    yeah but you don't power run with the scatback, you'll get stuffed, but Michel/Ingram are less receiving threats so it's kind of tick for tack


    also against Brady, you should play defense like you're playing Alex Smith minus the scrambling threat. Hard flat zones, disallow all the short stuff, MAKE him try and beat you deep
    Now here comes the part where you equivocate and say that by hard flat zones you actually meant man coverage.
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    That's not what you say here when you talk about "hard flat zones"



    Now here comes the part where you equivocate and say that by hard flat zones you actually meant man coverage.
    Similar concept though. Take away everything shallow and force the deep ball. If you want to go zone, hard flat zones are the way to go, absolutely no soft zones or cover 2 BS.

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    Tons of guys from 09-13 era

    Marquez Colston
    Robert Meachem
    Lance Moore
    Joseph Morgan
    others

    Hell... Jimmy Graham


    Marquez Colston never played for anyone but the Saints.
    Robert Meachem played for the Saints 7/8 years and retired a Saint.
    Lance Moore left the Saints when he was 31.
    Joseph Morgan didn't play for anyone but the Saints.

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    Similar concept though. Take away everything shallow and force the deep ball. If you want to go zone, hard flat zones are the way to go, absolutely no soft zones or cover 2 BS.
    Like I said, here comes the part where you equivocate.

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    Marquez Colston never played for anyone but the Saints.
    Robert Meachem played for the Saints 7/8 years and retired a Saint.
    Lance Moore left the Saints when he was 31.
    Joseph Morgan didn't play for anyone but the Saints.
    MM's response - Well see I was right, Colston left the Saints and retired. Obviously that means he was less productive!

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    MM's response - Well see I was right, Colston left the Saints and retired. Obviously that means he was less productive!
    I'm speculating but I'm thinking when he first made the comment, he was thinking about Cooks. When he realized that wasn't true, he just listed a bunch of random Saint's receivers.

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    MM's response - Well see I was right, Colston left the Saints and retired. Obviously that means he was less productive!
    But I guess the only positive thing is that once he's been proven wrong, he usually won't argue about it. He'll just ignore it and then move on to post other inaccuracies.

  9. #109
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    What always gets me is regardless of who gets what it's always the Pats in the drivers seat.

    The bottom line is really that....coach/QB....combo. everybody else pretty much bit players.

    Who has the best coach/QB combo, yep...Pats.

    When my Niners ruled the game....Walsh/Montana

    Way back in the days of the old AAFC....Paul Brown/Otto Graham

    Who can forget....Lombardi/Starr

    Look at all the weak Coach/QB combo's out there right now.

  10. #110
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    shitty Cardinals land the best free agent ILB out there, yes better than Mosley. But can he stay healthy is the question?

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    OBJ to browns

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    Hate losing Peppers. That's my guy. Big deals like this always make me queasy.

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    i'd love the raiders to take a look at ingram
    Not for the 7 mil/year that he is seeking
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    What the fuck just happened.

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    OBJ is overrated

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    The Giants will receive the Browns' first-round pick in 2019 (No. 17 overall), their second third-round pick this year and safety Jabrill Peppers for Beckham, the source said.

  17. #117
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    OBJ & Landry reunited. Now sign Mettenberger

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    Hate losing Peppers. That's my guy. Big deals like this always make me queasy.
    I'm sorry dude. This guy is a diva receiver - think Dez Bryant with lower intelligence. I hope this works out for you though, and am a little relieved to get him out of the division. He's a deep speed threat at the end of the day even with all his "baggage."
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    I'm sorry dude. This guy is a diva receiver - think Dez Bryant with lower intelligence. I hope this works out for you though, and am a little relieved to get him out of the division. He's a deep speed threat at the end of the day even with all his "baggage."
    Most big-time receivers are divas. Even some shit receivers are divas (Braylon Edwards). It goes with the position. My concern is that Baker is not the type of QB who is going to force-feed one guy. He'll spread it around, and there are a lot of mouths to feed in this offense.

    I should be happy that the Browns are going for the gusto, though. For years they've been satisfied w/going 4-12 or 5-11 and hoping they'll be better in 2-3 years. Those days are over.

  20. #120
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    Holy shitballs. This is legit. With the Ravens defense getting torn to shreds in FA (and still trotting out a QB who can't throw), Pissburgh losing their 2 players that drive their entire offense, and the Bungles being mired in mediocrity. Absolutely zero excuse for the Browns to not dominate that crappy division for the foreseeable future.

  21. #121
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    49ers just WAY overpaid Dee Ford. I don't think he's that great. Playing next to Chris Jones (the "other Aaron Donald") made him look much better than he is.

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    i think he's the second best receiver in the league after AB, and with Brown already in his 30's, thats probably not for long. OBJ is an absurd talent and put up numbers despite horrendous QB play from Eli last year

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    Not for the 7 mil/year that he is seeking
    yeah thats kinda steep.

  24. #124
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    Man the Browns were fun to watch last year but this year is going to be something.

  25. #125
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    Baker Mayfield, Kareem Hunt, Nick Chubb, OBJ, Jarvis Landry, David N'Joku... that's a hell of a cast

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