2020 Dems embrace Green New Deal, as GOP sees campaign gold

Democrats won the house because moderate Democrats won primaries and then turned red districts blue. AOCs victory had nothing to do with it. She just replaced blue with blue. If Pelosi cant rein in her juniors like AOC and the party keeps sliding left it puts those new seats in danger. That is why 27 Democrats voted with Republicans last week. Self survival.

CC in the pose of the purveyor of conventional wisdom, wishcasting the DSA genie back into the bottle. AOC has turned him into a defender of Nancy Pelosi, no mean feat for a male chauvinist pig like CC.

Why the hate, winehole? I'm simply pointing out AOC is damaging your party and Pelosi knows it.

No hate, you like to bash women, is all.

I happen to think you're wrong about which direction the Dems need to go. Had DJT come out with big social spending and public works a la Huey Long, the Dems would be obsolete already.

Originally Posted by Winehole23

No hate, you like to bash women, is all.

I happen to think you're wrong about which direction the Dems need to go. Had DJT come out with big social spending and public works a la Huey Long, the Dems would be obsolete already.

Actually, CC has a valid point...and its not new.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...-collar-221913

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/02/...-closed-doors/

Originally Posted by Winehole23

No hate, you like to bash women, is all.

I happen to think you're wrong about which direction the Dems need to go. Had DJT come out with big social spending and public works a la Huey Long, the Dems would be obsolete already.

So do you hate white men because you bash trump?
Disagree with her does not make you love to bash woman


I think there a woman president in 16-48 years.

Originally Posted by SouthTexasRancher

Asshole, pull your idiotic, brain dead head out of your ass so you can take a . I really don't give a damn about you dimdumb socialists. Feel free to abort all the babies you want, allow all the drugs on the planet to freely come into the USA, raise your taxes (oh wait, you low life's don't pay taxes....my bad), live off of my taxes by getting food stamps and living in your rundown Section 8 housing, allow gangs to kill, steal and cause us law abiding taxpayers to foot the bill while suckers like you rot in prison. Do as you please, random guy because seriously I don't give a damn about you.....PERIOD..! Now if you don't mind I need to take the time to at you.

(yawn)

Originally Posted by ducks

I think there a woman president in 16-48 years.

Bold.

Originally Posted by Winehole23

Isn't the whole point of the GND that systemic change is needed and individual lifestyle tweaks won't get the job done?

sure, but Repugs dupe their ignorant base with stupid cheap shots at the opposition

eg, Obama ate arugula.

Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

Democrats won the house because moderate Democrats won primaries and then turned red districts blue. AOCs victory had nothing to do with it. She just replaced blue with blue. If Pelosi cant rein in her juniors like AOC and the party keeps sliding left it puts those new seats in danger. That is why 27 Democrats voted with Republicans last week. Self survival.

Self delusion.

Congress Thinks Voters Are Way More Conservative Than They Actually Are. Here’s Why.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/...servatism.html

Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue

Actually, CC has a valid point...and its not new.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...-collar-221913

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/02/...-closed-doors/

I think progressives are smart enough to understand the realities of moderate districts, and won't really go "freedom caucus of the left". That is one of the differences between the straightjacket of the extreme tea party right, and the new progressive wing that got into Congress on the left. I may end up wrong about that, but am tuned in to the chatter enough to have a sense of where that is going.

Originally Posted by RandomGuy

I think progressives are smart enough to understand the realities of moderate districts, and won't really go "freedom caucus of the left". That is one of the differences between the straightjacket of the extreme tea party right, and the new progressive wing that got into Congress on the left. I may end up wrong about that, but am tuned in to the chatter enough to have a sense of where that is going.

Oh yeah. You street walked for Beto. You are an expert now.

You know RG, it's sad that you cant disagree about politics without attacking those that disagree with you personally.

Originally Posted by RandomGuy

I think progressives are smart enough to understand the realities of moderate districts, and won't really go "freedom caucus of the left". That is one of the differences between the straightjacket of the extreme tea party right, and the new progressive wing that got into Congress on the left. I may end up wrong about that, but am tuned in to the chatter enough to have a sense of where that is going.

One of my oldest friends is very involved in the Texas legislature. As a very dyed in the wool Dem, and likely better connected than you, he echoes these concerns. In fact he forwarded me the politico piece.

Old-line establishment Dems are responsible for doing nothing about the oligarchy dragging the Repugs into the bags they are now, nothing about the extreme inequality created by the oligarchy's Repugs for 40 years.

The Clintons are as horribly neo-liberal as any Repug. And Reagan-Thatcher neoliberalism has deeply ed over 100Ms.

Trash's Exec "Bannon's deconstruction of the administrative state" will casue 100Ks of diseased and dead Americans.

The Dem establishment offers NOTHING but the same old fecklessness in the face of the long-time, on-going onslaught of the oligarchy on America.

See Pelosi's interview with Rolling Stone to see how badly the Dem establishment continues to over USA.

Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue

Actually, CC has a valid point...and its not new.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...-collar-221913

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/02/...-closed-doors/

CC's crocodile tears about disunity on the Democratic side are unconvincimg, but it's not amiss to point out the electoral disadvantage of disunity. Nor to point out the rift between Pelosi and Hoyer in regard to stopping Congressional Republicans.

Whoever can get the half of the country that doesn't typically vote to vote will win.

If that doesn't happen it's probably four more years of Trump, but I was wrong about 2016: maybe hatred of Trump will be enough to get Dems over the finish line, but I tend to doubt it.

Originally Posted by boutons_deux

Old-line establishment Dems are responsible for doing nothing about the oligarchy dragging the Repugs into the bags they are now, nothing about the extreme inequality created by the oligarchy's Repugs for 40 years.

The Clintons are as horribly neo-liberal as any Repug. And Reagan-Thatcher neoliberalism has deeply ed over 100Ms.

Trash's Exec "Bannon's deconstruction of the administrative state" will casue 100Ks of diseased and dead Americans.

The Dem establishment offers NOTHING but the same old fecklessness in the face of the long-time, on-going onslaught of the oligarchy on America.

See Pelosi's interview with Rolling Stone to see how badly the Dem establishment continues to over USA.

Is RG boutons alt?

Originally Posted by ducks

So do you hate white men because you bash trump?
Disagree with her does not make you love to bash woman


I think there a woman president in 16-48 years.

You barely make sense, ducks.

Originally Posted by Winehole23

You barely make sense, ducks.

On a good day....

Originally Posted by Winehole23

You barely make sense, ducks.

Saying barely is awfully generous of you. Ducks makes no sense about 90% of the time tbh.

Originally Posted by Chris

That says more than you know.

Democracy bad... party over country.

#oblivious Chris.

Hail Satan.

Originally Posted by Chris

biggest swamp monster

Herr Mitch

Swamp good now.