Sony PoorStation 5

[baseline bum]

Also the two God of War games on PS5 play very much like the Souls games so they're a must if you have that kind of taste in gaming. God of War 2018 is on PC also.

[z0sa]

Much appreciated, dude! Seriously. Yeah, I gotta say the FFs put the PS5 over the top but there's a lot of cool stuff there. I haven't played shin mi gami, makes me think of deathnote instantly lol

My PC is relatively nice but it's shoved in my office and my frickin kids are always running around the living room, dining room etc doing a bunch of they ain't supposed to. And I ain't lettin' near my tower by dragging it closer I'd rather a brand new PS5 go down, which it probably will be stomped on, crushed a bit, chewed on etc lol. Sometimes I wonder why we even had these little f*ckers ll

But yeah, thank you BB!!

[baseline bum]

Much appreciated, dude! Seriously. Yeah, I gotta say the FFs put the PS5 over the top but there's a lot of cool stuff there. I haven't played shin mi gami, makes me think of deathnote instantly lol

My PC is relatively nice but it's shoved in my office and my frickin kids are always running around the living room, dining room etc doing a bunch of they ain't supposed to. And I ain't lettin' near my tower by dragging it closer I'd rather a brand new PS5 go down, which it probably will be stomped on, crushed a bit, chewed on etc lol. Sometimes I wonder why we even had these little f*ckers ll

But yeah, thank you BB!!

Shin Megami Tensei games are like Persona minus the HS life sim stuff and with way harder and better combat. I do think SMT and Persona are the two series with the best turn based combat of any JRPG series, not even close. If you haven't played Dragon Quest, it's the original JRPG series and the one so big they had to move release dates from Friday to Saturday in Japan to keep kids from skipping school to wait in line to buy the game on Day 1. The art style in Dragon Quest is from Akira Toriyama of Dragonball fame. Yakuza Like a Dragon and Like a Dragon Ishin are basically Dragon Quest games set in the Yakuza/Like a Dragon universe. Absolutely incredible clones of the games but with a modern Japanese gangster vibe instead of the old school knights and maidens vibe of the Dragon Quest games.

Gotta warn your kids will kill the PS5 controller if they're rough with it, as they're super prone to stick drift. Though XBox and Switch use the same crap stick mechanism so they're every bit as prone to stick drift too. ing bull to pay $70 for a controller and it doesn't even have hall effect sticks (that can never develop drift) like the Dreamcast did stock 25 years ago.

[z0sa]

^ funny you talk about this, I've gone through multiple controllers and now there's a specific "home" for the controller and it's always plugged in and my six year old gets in deep if it leaves it's "home" for more than the next cocomelon or super mario run on youtube.

As for the persona comparison, I just looked it up as I haven't played it in ages and that actually sounds pretty cool. I felt like the combat was more of an afterthought when I last played persona (wanna say it was pt 3 - you were in a school and , it never occurred to me that it's probably inspired by or inspired death note lol). I got a long ways through Elden Ring but then got an itch to play skyrim with some hardcore difficulty mods and so I'm restarting elden ring, gonna try to "blind" speedrun since technically it's my 2nd time through or at least most of the way through (i think). Then I'm gonna spring for the PS5 and FF7 remakes and go from there. My xbox also is pretty much shot and makes a loud noise every now and then lol, the framerate drops randomly on games it never did before, etc. time for the pasture, literally gonna destroy it office style in the backyard after a drink or two because why not/I'm a sociopath who enjoys ing with the neighbors. My kids will enjoy the show, I'm sure.

[spurraider21]

A lot of the best JRPG are on both systems: e.g.,

Persona 5 Royal
Persona 3 Reload
Dragon Quest XI S (don't get the non S version, it has a ty MIDI soundtrack)
Yakuza Like a Dragon
Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth
NieR Automata
Nier Replicant
Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne
Persona 4 Golden
Elden Ring
Dark Souls series
Okami
Ni No Kuni 1
Sekiro


PS5 does have the FF games, and a few other bangers though:

Final Fantasy VII Remake (also on PC)
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
Final Fantasy XVI
Bloodborne
Ghost of Tsushima
Odin Sphere Leifthrasir
Dragon's Crown
Demon's Souls Remake

Switch ain't to be slept on if you like JRPG though with exclusives like:

Shin Megami Tensei V
Xenoblade Chronicles 1-3

I'd go PS5 myself in your shoes, though Game Pass is ing nice too with Persona 3 Reload and Yakuza Like a Dragon on it right now. Though I usually just buy a month of PC Game Pass for $10 whenever a game I want comes out on it. Used it for Like a Dragon Gaiden and Lies of P last November and now for Persona 3 Reload this month. Doesn't have enough that I haven't played for me to continually subscribe to Game Pass.

not to mention the action-rpg games like god of war, horizon, etc, or other single player bangers like spiderman

ps5 blocks poorbox out of the water

[baseline bum]

^ funny you talk about this, I've gone through multiple controllers and now there's a specific "home" for the controller and it's always plugged in and my six year old gets in deep if it leaves it's "home" for more than the next cocomelon or super mario run on youtube.

As for the persona comparison, I just looked it up as I haven't played it in ages and that actually sounds pretty cool. I felt like the combat was more of an afterthought when I last played persona (wanna say it was pt 3 - you were in a school and , it never occurred to me that it's probably inspired by or inspired death note lol). I got a long ways through Elden Ring but then got an itch to play skyrim with some hardcore difficulty mods and so I'm restarting elden ring, gonna try to "blind" speedrun since technically it's my 2nd time through or at least most of the way through (i think). Then I'm gonna spring for the PS5 and FF7 remakes and go from there. My xbox also is pretty much shot and makes a loud noise every now and then lol, the framerate drops randomly on games it never did before, etc. time for the pasture, literally gonna destroy it office style in the backyard after a drink or two because why not/I'm a sociopath who enjoys ing with the neighbors. My kids will enjoy the show, I'm sure.

If you buy the FFVII Rebirth (eg Part 2) Twin Pack from PSN before launch date you get FFVII Remake (eg Part 1) with all its DLC included free

https://store.playstation.com/en-us/...83148264580163

So if you want to play Rebirth in the next month or two when it's still going to be full price everywhere might as well buy that twin pack. Unless you like buying physical so you can resell I guess. Part 1 is brilliant BTW. I'll start on the demo of Part 2 once I finish Persona 3 Reload.

Also if you buy a Persona game I'd highly recommend Persona 5 Royal when the PS5 version drops to $30. Kind of surprised it isn't there right now since Steam has it for $30 currently. Persona 5 Royal for PS4 plays well on PS5 too but runs 30 fps instead of the PS5 version that runs at 60 fps on PS5. Also don't buy regular Persona 5 as Persona 5 Royal is a far superior game and you can't upgrade base Persona 5 to Persona 5 Royal.

[baseline bum]

not to mention the action-rpg games like god of war, horizon, etc, or other single player bangers like spiderman

ps5 blocks poorbox out of the water

Only thing ShineBox has going for it is Game Pass, which is awesome to buy a month at a time when something you want comes out but not enough to buy recurring IMO. Hence PoorStation 5 plus PoorC is the way to go. Poortendo as a third string system is good too if you have a hacked Switch but if not no thanks paying $60 and $70 for everything good on it even seven years after the game's launch.

[baseline bum]

PoorStation 5 Pro unveiling tomorrow at 10AM CST. Probably only get it if (1) it's offers a significant leak in performance and (2) Gamestop has a ridiculously good PS5 trade-in deal, like trade in old PS5, pay $100, get PS5 Pro.

https://blog.playstation.com/2024/09...by-mark-cerny/

[baseline bum]

What a pos. $700 for discless PS5 Pro. Which really makes it a $780 console once you factor in $50 for the blu-ray drive and $30 for the stand, which both used to come with the systems. ing Playstation almost as much of a disaster as XBox this gen lol.

[Reck]

Sony going full re again.

I’ll keep my normie PS5 with disk support for 500, Alex.

[Reck]

What a pos. $700 for discless PS5 Pro. Which really makes it a $780 console once you factor in $50 for the blu-ray drive and $30 for the stand, which both used to come with the systems. ing Playstation almost as much of a disaster as XBox this gen lol.

Really strange decisions being made at Sony. Not long ago they raped their own PS+ players by jacking up the price like 120%.

[Joseph Kony]

with most of Sony's "exclusives" coming to PC eventually anyway there is little reason to pay $300+ more for a pro to me. i could just buy a new GPU instead

[baseline bum]

Really strange decisions being made at Sony. Not long ago they raped their own PS+ players by jacking up the price like 120%.

Gotta make up for that $200 million they just lost on Concord most likely.

LOL PoorStation having the single worst performing piece of media ever created. Kevin Costner and Waterworld looking like a spectacular success in comparison.

[baseline bum]

Sony going full re again.

I’ll keep my normie PS5 with disk support for 500, Alex.

I'm tempted to sell mine with how bare the PlayStation cupboard looks right now. Feels like Jim Ryan wrecked the brand the same way Don Mattrick did XBox and can't say I'm very hopeful about PlayStation's future. Nintendo might be the only console worth buying going forward.

[ElNono]

The box is pretty beast, but you really are nickel and diming for the ing stand?

[baseline bum]

The box is pretty beast, but you really are nickel and diming for the ing stand?

I hope this fails hard, like 2024 Atari Jaguar hard, being a $310 increase over the base PS5 four years later. This is Sony testing the waters and hoping they can jack the price of the PS6 up to $700 or $800.

[ElNono]

I hope this fails hard, like 2024 Atari Jaguar hard, being a $310 increase over the base PS5 four years later. This is Sony testing the waters and hoping they can jack the price of the PS6 up to $700 or $800.

This is tailored to the whales, IMO. They have to be careful not to cannibalize PS5 sales too.

I mean, I do get that people have expectations about console prices, but video cards have almost doubled in price as well. At some point something has to give.
I recall when $400 would buy you a top of the line video card, and mid-tier was $250. Those days are long gone too. A 7800XT (which is basically compared to a RTX 4090) is $500.

Or you can pull a Nintendo and go with underpowered ARM processors and 8 year old GPU tech. I'm legit curious how much the Switch 2 is going to cost, despite all that.

[baseline bum]

This is tailored to the whales, IMO. They have to be careful not to cannibalize PS5 sales too.

I mean, I do get that people have expectations about console prices, but video cards have almost doubled in price as well. At some point something has to give.
I recall when $400 would buy you a top of the line video card, and mid-tier was $250. Those days are long gone too. A 7800XT (which is basically compared to a RTX 4090) is $500.

Or you can pull a Nintendo and go with underpowered ARM processors and 8 year old GPU tech. I'm legit curious how much the Switch 2 is going to cost, despite all that.

I don't buy it. This is Sony seeing how far they can push gamers and seeing if they can corral them into only buying digital where they have a monopoly. Ugh knew when Microsoft was first rumored to buy Activision it was going to kill PlayStation's model of console hardware and great single player games as loss leaders to get you to buy into the ecosystem so they could get their 30% cut on yearly franchises like COD, and sure enough now we get insanely expensive hardware and Sony moving their focus to making bland Ubisoft-esque live service crap. A bit of a gpu bump and better AI upscaling for $310 over the price the base PS5 came out at four years ago? No thanks Sony.

[ElNono]

I don't buy it. This is Sony seeing how far they can push gamers and seeing if they can corral them into only buying digital where they have a monopoly. Ugh knew when Microsoft was first rumored to buy Activision it was going to kill PlayStation's model of console hardware and great single player games as loss leaders to get you to buy into the ecosystem so they could get their 30% cut on yearly franchises like COD, and sure enough now we get insanely expensive hardware and Sony moving their focus to making bland Ubisoft-esque live service crap. A bit of a gpu bump and better AI upscaling for $310 over the price the base PS5 came out at four years ago? No thanks Sony.

All I'm saying is got expensive, and it hasn't been just consoles. This is why Microsoft is eyeing doing basically a PlayStation Portal for cloud games at this point and streaming everything. I think they're done making consoles and selling them at a loss to basically move a amount of units.
The live service stuff is terrible, I agree, but if they keep going like this it'll self-correct. It'll take a bit, games take a while to make.

The acquisitions are probably part of it, but GamePass is also a race to the bottom. Might be good value here or there, but having a buffet when the cost of games keeps going up and up will inevitably lead to a broken economy or tier games. Also, bringing exclusives to PC is a mistake for Sony, IMO. PC gamers have enough games to play to wait it out now since they know they're coming.

[baseline bum]

All I'm saying is got expensive, and it hasn't been just consoles. This is why Microsoft is eyeing doing basically a PlayStation Portal for cloud games at this point and streaming everything. I think they're done making consoles and selling them at a loss to basically move a amount of units.
The live service stuff is terrible, I agree, but if they keep going like this it'll self-correct. It'll take a bit, games take a while to make.

The acquisitions are probably part of it, but GamePass is also a race to the bottom. Might be good value here or there, but having a buffet when the cost of games keeps going up and up will inevitably lead to a broken economy or tier games. Also, bringing exclusives to PC is a mistake for Sony, IMO. PC gamers have enough games to play to wait it out now since they know they're coming.

There is no way the Pro costs $310 more to manufacture than base PS5. The pricepoint and the nickel and diming with the drive and the stand feel like retribution on us for not buying Concord, a game no one asked for. Game Pass meh, that is dead man walking. It has no chance when they're already en tifying it in what is supposed to be the growth phase for the service. Can't start making your service trash until everyone has already bought into it like Netflix or Google Search. But I can't stomach $810 for a console that refuses to even support FreeSync so I can get VRR without having to go buy a $1000+ 4k120 TV with HDMI 2.1 VRR support. Sad seeing PlayStation go down in flames like this.

[baseline bum]

The box is pretty beast, but you really are nickel and diming for the ing stand?

So is Digital Foundry full of saying this will have a gpu around the level of an RTX 3070 Ti? Because if so, ouch, no way that's worth $810.

[ElNono]

So is Digital Foundry full of saying this will have a gpu around the level of an RTX 3070 Ti? Because if so, ouch, no way that's worth $810.

Hard to compare, so not sure. Developers can clock up the CPU, and there's a 2TB PCIe 4 SSD. The AI side is entirely custom. I can't really comment more, but just trust me it's a pretty beasty box.

[baseline bum]

Hard to compare, so not sure. Developers can clock up the CPU, and there's a 2TB PCIe 4 SSD. The AI side is entirely custom. I can't really comment more, but just trust me it's a pretty beasty box.

Sorry my bad, forgot you're under NDA.

[ElNono]

Sorry my bad, forgot you're under NDA.

I mean, at the end of the day, it'll either sell or it won't, and that'll be the final verdict. We'll see.

[baseline bum]

I mean, at the end of the day, it'll either sell or it won't, and that'll be the final verdict. We'll see.

I hope it goes down in flames, ridiculous having to pay $110 for a drive and vertical stand that used to just come with the PS5.