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then the timeline they pull her from can't get the soul stone or they'd have to sacrifice someone else, also you'd be taking a separate Avenger's black widow
Hit me in the soft spots...man, got teary eyed. Not gonna lie.
then the timeline they pull her from can't get the soul stone or they'd have to sacrifice someone else, also you'd be taking a separate Avenger's black widow
True true
Well I’m not sure anymore lol
Lol I guess I’m the only one here who watched that show
No, if he intervened then the avengers wouldn't form or be around to protect the earth. It seems clear that he made Peggy wifey and lived low-key with her up to and including when that timelines Cap comes out of the ice.
Where they messed up was having old Cap. Cap leaving and staying in the 40s means that there is no cap in the main timeline period. Old Cap would have been in another timeline completely, especially if he intervened like you said.
Also he essentially did what it took a like 8 Avengers to do in order to get the stones back, in order not to change the timeline but then goes back further with the intention of changing the timeline
The correct ending should have probably been that TWS tells Falcon that cap left for good and that he wants him to pick up the mantle of CA and that T'Challa is working on fixing or making a new shield.
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Man, those allergies. I came down with a case of them at the end of Logan. Damnist thing
Best part for me was that Cap was willing to go at Thanos and his people's with a broken shield and then we hear "On your left, Cap."
If he lived "low-key" that means he let bucky stay being a hydra agent and let hydra infiltrate SHIELD that doesn't fit his character at all
Also means that he let Thanos do the snap and kill 4 billion people in order to get with Peggy. That is hard to believe in regards to his character, especially since his logic in Civil War was that he couldn't agree to some thing that could keep him or the Avengers from intervening when needed.
He'd be able to intervene but choose not to plus he almost certainly stole the shield from another Steve Rodgers in order to give it to Falcon.
I don't know if anyone else noticed, but the movie was written so that Evans could come back an play steve rogers again if he wanted to. I don't mean alternative rogers i mean old man Steve Rogers.
thanos clicks his fingers, the stones disappear as he had said at the start of end game
hulk click his fingers, yet the stones didnt disappear (whys that?)
ironman click his fingers, yet the stones didnt disappear like above... why the difference?
i assume after hulk clicks, they went back in time again?
then after ironman, they went back in time again to retrieve and restore correct timeline where those stones belong?
That's the "Back to the future" logic. They told you it's b.s. lol
The stone didn't disappear from Thanos's first snap he did a second snap on his farm planet and the second time his snap was to make the stones disappear so he wouldn't be tempted to use them again
He is reportedly going to appear in the Falcon and Winter Soldier Disney + series
Spiderman movies always seem a little too slapstick and lighthearted for my liking. I liked Captain Marvel's setting but the special effects and fight scenes were some of the lowest quality in MCU. Fury and Coulson were more entertaining than Cap Marvel. And how is Iron Man 3 not in your bottom 5 lol. That movie was vomit. And no love at all for Hulk?
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Winter Soldier was easily my #1.
Black Panther middle of the pack.
Worst by far imo was Captain Marvel.
In a recent interview, the Russos clarified the whole time travel/reality thing :
https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudi...medium=ios_app
Infinity War is indisputably the best. The Guardians of the Galaxy movies, Winter Soldier, and Civil War are next. Endgame is top 5, I guess. The first Cap movie was straight up bad. Hulk and Captain Marvel were meh. Thor: The Dark World does take the bottom spot. It's so forgettable that I can remember next to nothing about it. There was a Chris Evans cameo, teleporting and Thor's mom dies (spoilers).
The first half was a little tedious, but I liked the first Captain America movie. I also like the Norton Hulk movie but Hulk and Cap are two of my favorite characters.
their explanation for why they couldnt bring back stark the same way thanos brought back vision doesnt make sense at all tbh...
but glad they addressed that Cap had to jump back to this timeline at the end... its not like old cap just sat on the bench and waited for this moment. he jumped back through time to be at the bench
CA : The Winter Soldier and Avengers :Infinity War are both #1 in my book.
It’s a toss up for me
The prime timeline can't be changed. Everything that happened, happened. If anything is changed in the past, it simply makes a new timeline.
Cap left the prime timeline, returned the stones and Thor's hammer to the points in the past from which they were initially taken at the exact moment (or right after) they were taken, so that what the Avengers did wouldn't have any significant impact (causing new timelines where things might go bad for the people).
Then Cap decided to stay in the past with Peggy, and this did indeed cause a new timeline to be created where he and Peggy were together (so in THAT timeline, Peggy didn't get married, kids weren't born, etc). Now, he would probably have to lay low, since there'd likely be another(that timeline's) Captain America thawed out in that timeline's future at some point, the creation of that timeline's Avengers, maybe even that timeline's "snap" etc., but ultimately all he'd have to do it wait until some point beyond the date of Endgame, travel to the past again (arriving in the prime timeline), sit on a bench, and... there you go. He's back and hands Sam his shield, which obviously wasn't ever destroyed in the alternate timeline he created.
They didn't do it. Thanos did it. They(Avengers) were actively trying NOT to do things like that.
But the answer is, yes, they could definitely swipe a Nat from the past and bring her to the prime timeline. It'd cause an alternate timeline to be created though.
its not entirely clear how Cap approached that stuff. maybe he stopped shield/hydra ahead of time. maybe he protected the tesseract (which was on earth at the time) and prevented many of the events from happening in the first place. he also has knowledge of where all the stones are, so maybe he prevented the infinity saga altogether in that timeline. we dont know. but based on the fact that he grew old and was happy, we can assume it worked out
eh, not really. banner specifically said that he tried to bring Natasha back too. the good guys used two different snaps in the movie... i dont see why they'd be so against using a single stone like the time stone. Dr. Strange used the time stone to defeat dormammu. after the battle, why not let him use the stone thanos style to bring back stark before returning the stones?
ultimately we just have the accept that they're retiring RDJ/Tony Stark... they did an ok enough job. the damage caused to the user by the stones is probably irreparable, which is why thanos was still half dead when they first encountered him in endgame. he wasnt able to heal himself
yeah an alternate timeline where from that perspective, Nat has gone missing and is presumed dead. based on the events of the film though, and their commitment to return the stones, they clearly care about not ing over alternate timelines.But the answer is, yes, they could definitely swipe a Nat from the past and bring her to the prime timeline. It'd cause an alternate timeline to be created though.
All that's really clear is that he decided to stay with Peggy in the past, creating an alternate timeline. Anything could have happened from the point he made that decision to when he returned to the prime timeline as an old man. He could have taken on an entirely new superheroic iden y in that timeline and helped prevent all the things you guys are talking about up above. There was no way for him to change the prime timeline, but he could make the world a better place in an alternate timeline, along with scratching his Peggy itch.
Then at some point, when he's an old man, after that timeline's Cap has died, he was given the shield. Or maybe the Stark or Panther of that timeline made a new one. Pretty much anything could have happened.
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