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    I don't know about you guys, but I cant think of a single thing that Iran has done to effect my life. I sure as cant think of a reason to go to war with them.
    Here's a 100 of 'em:

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    at Fox News.

    "War bad now," because Lord Trump has spoken against it. If this were 2010, they'd be calling Obomba a capitulating wimp, and clutching their pearls while saying, "Iran must be dealt with! This rogue state not only threatens national security, but global security. As the leader of the free world and protector of democracy around the globe, it's our duty....yada, yada, yada."

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    I don't know about you guys, but I cant think of a single thing that Iran has done to effect my life. I sure as cant think of a reason to go to war with them.
    Along with Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and others they have made you wait in airport lines.
    But then again we shoved the Shah in their face so there’s that...

    All played a major role in terrorist technology.
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    I don't know about you guys, but I cant think of a single thing that Iran has done to effect my life. I sure as cant think of a reason to go to war with them.
    I can think of three reasons: Israel, the KSA and the UAE want us to.

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    Trump Says the Military Industrial Complex is Pressuring him Into a War With Iran

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    Trump should fire Pompeo and Bolton if he doesn't like it, but hia reluctance is probably a show. Trump wants to go to war. Det CINC glory will be hard to resist -- he already ramped up the rate of bombing in half a dozen places.

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    If Trump does go to war, board Trumpistas will hail him pussying out to the MIC as an alpha move and call anyone who disagrees a traitor, same as after 9/11.

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    Trump should fire Pompeo and Bolton if he doesn't like it, but hia reluctance is probably a show. Trump wants to go to war. Det CINC glory will be hard to resist -- he already ramped up the rate of bombing in half a dozen places.
    I have little doubt that Dumb Donald Chicken McBonespurs wants a war. His past statement indicates that he thinks the country will have to unite behind him, but he has to make a show of not wanting it. That sounds cynical as all get out, but Dumb Donald doesn't get the benefit of the doubt at this point.

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    I would find it extremely difficult to support Trump considering the mass exodus of refugees this would erupt onto Europe.

    Democrats hate my race but they are just one political party in a nation in North America. I really don't want anymore africans or arabs in Europe and would prefer to face the slow cultural rotting of western liberals over more region destabilizing by neo-cons

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    I have little doubt that Dumb Donald Chicken McBonespurs wants a war. His past statement indicates that he thinks the country will have to unite behind him, but he has to make a show of not wanting it. That sounds cynical as all get out, but Dumb Donald doesn't get the benefit of the doubt at this point.
    Pretty much. He has years worth of comments that make this likely.

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    Proof U.S. Is Provoking Iran Into WAR

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    What is Trump trying to get Iran to do? Negotiate? Reform its political system? Sure looks like the US is escalating the situation without any clear objective or exit plan.
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    What is Trump trying to get Iran to do? Negotiate? Reform it's political system? Sure looks like the US is escalating the situation without any clear objective or exit plan.
    Could be diversionary for his mounting domestic problems.
    I don’t know if he’s patient enough to pull himself out of a situation in which he loses face.
    It’s not comforting.

    I take that back. He is more than willing to lose face as he can convince himself and about a third of America that he has won something. Ex N Korea

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    One notable result of the 2003 Iraq war was that the US drove Iraq into the arms of its historical enemy and enhanced its regional influence.


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    Finally, some progress towards Peace in the Middle East.

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    If Trump does go to war, board Trumpistas will hail him pussying out to the MIC as an alpha move and call anyone who disagrees a traitor, same as after 9/11.
    I will absolutely disagree with going to war with Iran no matter what.

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    Iran sees 'no prospect of negotiations with America,' foreign ministry says

    Trash remained hopeful on Monday, saying he "really believe[s] that

    Iran would like to make a deal," and

    that he's only seeking denuclearization and not a regime change.

    Iran, on the other hand, disagreed.

    “Iran pays no attention to words. What matters to us is a change of approach and behavior," spokesperson Abbas Mousavi reportedly told the Fars news agency,

    https://theweek.com/speedreads/843842/iran-sees-no-prospect-negotiations-america-foreign-ministry-says

    After Bolton's Bombs (c) start falling on Iran, I predict Trash will say

    "I, Supreme Deal Maker, offered Iran a (really ty, stupid, ignorant, ridiculous) deal, and Iran refused to suck my ."

    People who have followed failed businessman fraud Trash for decades say the objective of Trash's deals is always to hurt the other party.

    Mutually beneficial deals are never the objective.





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    What is Trump trying to get Iran to do? Negotiate? Reform its political system? Sure looks like the US is escalating the situation without any clear objective or exit plan.
    He does that all the time as part of his "business" MO. Problem is that when countries and armies are involved, that is irresponsible and dangerous.

    Especially with chickenhawk Bolton in the engine room.

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    I will absolutely disagree with going to war with Iran no matter what.
    So?

    What are you going to do about it? Donate more money to the GOP that keeps him in power? Keep voting for them? That will show him.

    Republican party has been taken over at this point. Trump is truly making it his own, and is building up a cult of personality.

    Trump is every bit as bad as the hysterical right fantasized Obama was and more. This stuff is happening right in front of you.

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    Best case would be Republicans taking the party back. Let the house impeach and drag him through the mud for a year, run a viable primary opponent and beat him in the primary. I'm sick of that idiot.

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    I will absolutely disagree with going to war with Iran no matter what.
    Best case would be Republicans taking the party back. Let the house impeach and drag him through the mud for a year, run a viable primary opponent and beat him in the primary. I'm sick of that idiot.

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    "Republicans taking the party back"

    how ING naive

    Trash is symptom of the Repugs' degradation into cheap little s to the oligarchy, not the cause.

    The Repugs not standing up to Trash, but defending him proves how ing degraded they are.

    Repugs ain't gonna get better for the non-oligarchy, only MUCH worse, and including fatally so.




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    That's fantastical.

    The GOP is not going to primary DJT in 2020. They are all in on Trump.

    For that reason alone, it'll be necessary to vote against Republicans across the board. Unless they lose and lose badly, they'll never get the message.

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    they'll never get the message.
    the ONLY message they listen to is from the oligarchy's -whisperers, and the vocabulary is dollars, $Bs

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