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  1. #26
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    Miles Davis comes later on you don't start there.
    He's already started there.

    You can't change that.

    You're lecturing and assigning homework.
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    He's already started there.

    You can't change that.

    You're lecturing and assigning homework.
    You must have missed....

    I've been wanting to expand my knowledge of jazz anyway, which is way too restricted.


    ......which is saying he wants to learn the music. Well, that means you go back to the roots of it all and work your way up to Miles Davis, and yes you start in 1917 with the first jazz on record. Just like ya start in 1920 and "Crazy Blues" as the first blues on record (sorta). Everything starts somewhere, so a student would want to go there.

    I could teach ROOTS MUSIC but it would be more about actually listening to that music than lectures/reading.




    One of my personal favorites.





    Talk to me about Jimmy Rushing.
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    You must have missed....

    I've been wanting to expand my knowledge of jazz anyway, which is way too restricted.


    ......which is saying he wants to learn the music.
    And there is more than one way to learn.

    Your way is like taking a class.

    What if he just ing hates the dixieland you've assigned him and told him he MUST hear.

    What then?
    Well, that means you go back to the roots of it all
    No, you start wherever you start and learn whatever you want to learn. If he likes the way Coltrane plays on Kind of Blue and he wants to hear Giant Steps after reading a bit about it -- why the not?

    Answer that.

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    And there is more than one way to learn.

    Your way is like taking a class.

    What if he just ing hates the dixieland you've assigned him and told him he MUST hear.

    What then?
    No, you start wherever you start and learn whatever you want to learn. If he likes the way Coltrane plays on Kind of Blue and he wants to hear Giant Steps after reading a bit about it -- why the not?

    Answer that.
    As usual you aren't getting it.

    Pavlov, a person can do it anyway they want to do it, BUT............if they plan on having somebody who ALREADY knows the music to help them along then they would want too see how they did it.

    I didn't just start out knowing about this stuff, it came in bits and pieces, I picked it up along the way. And it took me years. I could have a guy being able to talk jazz in a few weeks. If they want to learn.


    You want to know about that ESSENTIAL/DEFINITIVE stuff to start with, the legends. Then ya get off into all the others.

    You cannot talk jazz without Jellyroll Morton.



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    As usual you aren't getting it.

    Pavlov, a person can do it anyway they want to do it, BUT............if they plan on having somebody who ALREADY knows the music to help them along then they would want too see how they did it.

    I didn't just start out knowing about this stuff, it came in bits and pieces, I picked it up along the way. And it took me years. I could have a guy being able to talk jazz in a few weeks. If they want to learn.
    So you learned it the way I just told him he could learn it. And he could take it as fast or as slow as he likes.

    If he wants to learn it that way.

    And he's already talking jazz, you stupid snob.

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    So you learned it the way I just told him he could learn it. And he could take it as fast or as slow as he likes.

    If he wants to learn it that way.

    And he's already talking jazz, you stupid snob.

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    Pavlov, you never pick up on how things really are at all, it's actually strange.

    The guy OBVIOUSLY can see I know the music and can help him if he wants to know about the origins of jazz. Why take years, when I can have him up to speed in a few weeks? If he wants to take years, then do it. But....that make any sense to you?

    Pavlov, talk to me about the HBCU at the NCAA Track Championships. NCA&T looked great today vs the big schools. What......you have no idea what I'm talking about? See how it works? Now you could take years or simply ask Avante.

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    Pavlov, you never pick up on how things really are at all, it's actually strange.

    The guy OBVIOUSLY can see I know the music and can help him if he wants to know about the origins of jazz. Why take years, when I can have him up to speed in a few weeks? If he wants to take years, then do it. But....that make any sense to you?
    He didn't say he wanted to know about the origins of jazz or to take your textbook survey.

    Maybe he just wants some recommendations along the lines of what he's listening to now.

    Pavlov, talk to me about the HBCU at the NCAA Track Championships. NCA&T looked great today vs the big schools. What......you have no idea what I'm talking about? See how it works?
    Quit begging, you piece of .

    No one cares.

    See how that works?

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    He didn't say he wanted to know about the origins of jazz or to take your textbook survey.

    Quit begging, you piece of .

    No one cares.

    See how that works?
    Pavlov, the guy made it very clear he'd like to expand his knowledge of jazz music. So where do you start, yep, at the begnnings of it all. Then you move up thru the decades, that's how ya learn things.

    Dude, you are so damn stupid, it's comical.

    Here ya go moron, learn something.

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    Pavlov, the guy made it very clear he's like to expand his knowledge of jazz music. So where do you start
    He starts wherever he wants.

    What part of that do you not get?

    Well?

    Answer the question.

    What if he doesn't want to go all the way back to your class assignments and homework?

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    He starts wherever he wants.

    What part of that do you not get?

    Well?

    Answer the question.

    What if he doesn't want to go all the way back to your class assignments and homework?
    Damn you're dumb.

    So you start learning about American History at WWII?

    So we start learning about the NFL in 1986?

    So we start learning about Rock and Roll in 1977?

    So we start learning about Marvel Comics in 2012?

    We start learning about the history of boxing in 1998?

    How damn dumb are you?

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    Damn you're dumb.

    So you start learning about American History at WWII?
    If that's what you're interested in, sure.

    So we start learning about the NFL in 1986?
    If that's what you're interested in, sure.

    So we start learning about Rock and Roll in 1977?
    If that's what you're interested in, sure.

    So we start learning about Marvel Comics in 2012?
    If that's what you're interested in, sure.

    We start learning about the history of boxing in 1998?
    If that's what you're interested in, sure.

    That's how it works.

    Answer the question:

    What if he doesn't want to go all the way back to your class assignments and homework?

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    Poster....hey Avante I noticed you know a lot about music and sports.
    Avante....yep
    Poster.....could you bring me up to speed on jazz music?
    Avante....how far back do you want to go?


    Who says......oh not too far back just want to know some of it.

    Yep, nobody.
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    Poster....hey Avante I noticed you know a lot about music and sports.
    Avante....yep
    Poster.....could you bring me up to speed on jazz music?
    Avante....how far back to you want to go?


    Who says......oh not too far back just want to know some of it.
    Plenty of people.

    That's how it works.

    It all depends on that person's interest.

    You have no control over that.

    Answer the question:

    What if he doesn't want to go all the way back to your class assignments and homework?

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    If that's what you're interested in, sure.


    If that's what you're interested in, sure.


    If that's what you're interested in, sure.


    If that's what you're interested in, sure.


    If that's what you're interested in, sure.

    That's how it works.

    Answer the question:

    What if he doesn't want to go all the way back to your class assignments and homework?
    I noticed you once again totally ignored my HBCU example, sheesh~~~~~~

    Stupid, there is a reason I know far more about sports/music than anyone here, ya see I knew how important it was to find the beginnings and do the homework. Stupid, you really can't begin to fathom just how much I do know, now if a guy doesn't want all that kind of knowledge then ignore what it takes to be where I;m at with this stuff. Be like you a know nothing.

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    I noticed you once again totally ignored my HBCU example, sheesh~~~~~~
    Nobody cares.

    Stupid, there is a reason I know far more about sports/music than anyone here, ya see I knew how important it was to find the beginnings and do the homework. Stupid, you really can't begin to fathom just how much I do know, now if a guy doesn't want all that kind of knowledge then ignore what it takes to be where I;m at with this stuff. Be like you a know nothing.
    Nobody cares about your begging for approval either.

    Answer the question:

    What if he doesn't want to go all the way back to your class assignments and homework?

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    Nobody cares.

    Nobody cares about your begging for approval either.

    Answer the question:

    What if he doesn't want to go all the way back to your class assignments and homework?
    So you ignore my questions but I need to answer yours, hahahahaha~~~~~~ Pavlov, are you really as stupid as you appear?

    Stupid, if a guy wants to know all about anything he starts at the beginning, ok dummy? If he doesn't then don't.....ya reckon?

    Is this freak re ed or what?

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    So you ignore my questions but I need to answer yours, hahahahaha~~~~~~ Pavlov, are you really as stupid as you appear?

    Stupid, if a guy wants to know all about anything he starts at the beginning, ok dummy? If he doesn't then don't.....ya reckon?

    Is this freak re ed or what?
    So if he doesn't want to know everything, then are your beginning-to-end syllabus and homework assignment plan useful?

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    Plenty of people.

    That's how it works.

    It all depends on that person's interest.

    You have no control over that.

    Answer the question:

    What if he doesn't want to go all the way back to your class assignments and homework?
    Pavlov, who? Come on guy, who only wants to know a % of something? Well? Prove it or shut the up.

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    So if he doesn't want to know everything, then are your beginning-to-end syllabus and homework assignment plan useful?
    I'll go slow, you can do this.

    NOBODY.....has to get Avante involved at all, ok ya with me slugger? BUT.....if they do then it's done my way, got it slick?

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    Pavlov, who? Come on guy, who only wants to know a % of something?
    Basically everybody in the world.

    You still don't know everything.

    You never will.

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    I'll go slow, you can do this.

    NOBODY.....has to get Avante involved at all, ok ya with me slugger? BUT.....if they do then it's done my way, got it slick?
    no, it's not.

    You can't dictate the way someone wants to learn if he's just asking for a couple of recommendations.

    What if he does that? Are you going to tell him no?


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    Basically everybody in the world.

    You still don't know everything.

    You never will.
    I know nobody who sets out to know just a little. Dude....wrong~~~~

    I know ALL there is to know about the things that interest Avante, there is nobody anywhere who knows more. Yes, there are a lot o things that don't interest me....

    soccer
    hockey
    female rasslin'
    romance novels/authors
    The Opera
    The Ballet
    NASCAR
    Lacrosse

    But when it comes to what I care about I have it all 100% covered. I have no equal.

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    I know nobody who sets out to know just a little. Dude....wrong~~~~

    I know ALL there is to know about the things that interest Avante, there is nobody anywhere who knows more. Yes, there are a lot o things that don't interest me....

    soccer
    hockey
    female rasslin'
    romance novels/authors
    The Opera
    The Ballet
    NASCAR
    Lacrosse

    But when it comes to what I care about I have it all 100% covered. I have no equal.
    Have you listened to every jazz recording ever made?

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    no, it's not.

    You can't dictate the way someone wants to learn if he's just asking for a couple of recommendations.

    What if he does that? Are you going to tell him no?

    Yes it is, so WRONG.

    I can dictate what somebody wants to learn IF they come to Avante.

    poster....any recommendations when it comes to jazz music?
    Avante.....if you just need a listen right now then......Black and Tan....Duke Ellington. But....of you like that and want more then we need to talk, ok?

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    Yes it is, so WRONG.

    I can dictate what somebody wants to learn IF they come to Avante.

    poster....any recommendations when it comes to jazz music?
    Avante.....if you just need a listen right now then......Black and Tan....Duke Ellington. But....of you like that and want more then we need to talk, ok?
    you didn't dictate what he wanted at all in that example, dummy.

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