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One thing is certain, Clarke or Thybulle can get at least a single minute when the guys ahead of them are injured.
Lol Diving into the urine soaked basement to bang out a video, and editing out an entire game to single out a play or two from an above average rookie to suit your narrative. And I thought tholdren was the biggest loser on this forum.
One thing is certain, Clarke or Thybulle can get at least a single minute when the guys ahead of them are injured.
Probably not on a Pop-coached team, thoughOne thing is certain, Clarke or Thybulle can get at least a single minute when the guys ahead of them are injured.
Wonder if we will see him in a Spurs uniform at all this year
people on pounding the rock think Luka might get some run versus Orlando tonight
https://www.poundingtherock.com/2020...-debut-tonight
All in all, PATFO suck at drafting. Other than the big 3, #2 and maybe George Hill, who else have they drafted? Granted, they only needed role players for 18 years but they have not developed any players.
Yep. I have officially stopped listening to anything any of you say from here on out
I think they are generally good at finding NBA level players at the end of the draft. The talk of Murray, White, Walker being like #2 was ridiculous. I think all three got a chance to be solid contributors to a championship team.
well, some people on spurstalk believe it was san antonio's development system, and not his work ethic, qi and physical talent that made Kawhi one of the greatest players in the game's history, for these people, I would say that this conversation is not so ridiculous.
It was the combination of both, buddy. Clearly, players like Leonard, Antetokounmpo & Bryant (all drafted around the same spot) have a work ethic few can match. The organizations, teammates & coaching staffs all three were surrounded by helped them all reach their untapped (and unseen) potential.
It isn't mutually exclusive, but you Leonard circle jerk idiots don't get that.
Also, no one has ever claimed that White, Murray or Walker has HOF or top 5 player (in the NBA) potential. Again, you idiots skew things stated to suit your fandom or narrative.
They haven't drafted in the lottery for 20+ years but have drafted or acquired 4 HOF level talents. Two (Parker & Leonard) that no one would have ever foreseen as elite level talents. Yet, somehow they suck drafting yadda, yadda, yadda.
The sheer stupidity spewed by some members of this board speaks to the en led, arrogant & spoiled at udes they have. Not the success (or "luck") the team has earned since 1999.
Also, the current situation is a clear & obvious byproduct of drafting late for so long. The jury will be out to see if the current GM & Pop's successor can reach even 0.01% of their success.
you got it wrong (well I hope it's not intentional), nobody said that Kawhi would be Kawhi before he was Kawhi, but many people believe here that he became Kawhi because he was recruited in SA (which is currently clearly not the best development program in the league).
Based on the clear 2-way potential of the three young players, yes, they can have an above average impact (I believe that, especially with Walker, not because of the system, but because he has not yet had a chance to make mistakes the court as a young players in other franchises, even franchises in better condition)
Again, Leonard became great partly because he ended up in the right situation (managment, coaches, teammates & development program) to exceed expectations.
Judging the Spurs development program or coaching staff based on not finding "another Leonard" is silly because 1) Leonard was a rare breed of player that was able to learn and developed faster than most other prospects & 2) members of the development staff that developed him have either been promoted or moved on to other organizations.
Lastly, many players (Justise Winslow, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Mikal Bridges, Miles Bridges, Stanley Johnson, OG Anunoby, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, etc.) with a similar profile to Leonard (in college) have landed in other team's lap & none have even reached an all-star level of play. Quite a few, if not all, were drafted higher than Leonard with a "higher ceiling" or thought to have more potential than him too.
That says a lot about Leonard's greatness, dogged determination and the Spurs' great development plan for him.
Again, the likelihood of finding another player like Leonard is extremely unlikely. Just like the Lakers will be hard pressed to find a Bryant type again at the 16th pick (straight out of high school) or the Bucks with Antetokounmpo.
All the young players currently on the team, minus Poeltl, were drafted or acquired outside of the lottery so any of them reaching all-star level is a huge, huge plus. Hopefully, the team can find one or two high-level players through the draft that can be complimented well by our current group (of young guys). Or they can find a reclamation project (Bridges in Charlotte possibly?) that can find another gear.....
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leonard became good because he was strapped to the bench or otherwise cast off into the g-league for 2 years... oh wait nevermind he was immediately in the rotation and they traded the starter midseason to give him an even bigger role
whoever scouted him and told the Spurs that they should draft him this high is a giant re .
Other than Derrick White, none of the players recently drafted by the Spurs was even remotely ready right out of the gate like Leonard.
Even with his limited role or skillset offensively his first two seasons, Leonard was by far a better, more polished prospect.
Yes, cause it makes sense to give up on a guy after just his first season. Now, he could be a "bust" or flame out quickly (ala Jerome Robinson on the Clippers) but I think it'd be wise to give him a season or more to show whether he can become something.
Also, drafting outside of the lottery is a bigger gamble than in the lottery. Thankfully, the lower drafted players aren't as crippling to a organization's long-term plans or future (Clippers easily salary dumped Robinson to Washington).
At 19, it's acceptable to draft a high ceiling, low floor player. It's just not much of a risk. If he busts, so what? Most of the players around him will, too.
I just want to see him play a game. Hes a mid first round pick and he should have played in at least a game.
I also dont know where the are people seeing high potential in this guy. I watched him play all games in europe and there is no way he is a first round pick. But ok lets wait, we got time, cause everyone on the team suck, so why not draft a player.
He’s a 6’10” guy who can dribble/pass/shoot and has a 38” vert. That’ll get you into the first round. If you watch his Austin highlights, you can see what the Spurs saw when the ball is in his hands. Unfortunately, he tends to drift when the ball isn’t in his hands, and he positively zones out on defense. He’s a lazy ass on that end. The latter two are the reason he hasn’t gotten minutes with the big club. If he busts out, it will be from lack of effort, not lack of talent.
It's good that Keldon is given playing time. Tells Samanic that he's got to work as hard as Keldon to make it to the next level.
If Keldon Johnson was the 19th pick and Saminic was the 30th, would that make everyone happy? Let's pretend that happened.
Seriously, Johnson and Saminic both have some good qualities. Johnson was a more polished player and had the benefit of being in a pro like environment at Kentucky. He looks to be just about ready to go at the NBA level when his chance comes.
The Spurs have to be productive and hit on a player (regardless of position) in this year's draft. This season is just the start of a rebuild which is probably a 2-3 year process.
He is lazy and he has at ude problems. Thats why i am most surprised the Spurs even drafted him.
i hope he proves me wrong and he becomes a beast or at least as good as this years Bertans.
If he didn't have those issues, he would have been a top ten pick. He dropped to 19 because of them and the low level league he played in. You almost HAVE to take a flyer on talent like that, though. If he does work out, it's a huge win. If not, oh well, just another late teens bust. I consider it basically a coin flip at this point as to whether he sticks or not.
Is it a given that he can shoot?
He's never shot 3-pointers particularly well before. 32% in the g-league, 20.8% in the ABA, 33.8% collectively in 18-19, 28.2% in 17-18 collectively, 33.3% in 16-17. I suppose he shot well in the 18-19 Slovenian domestic league at 40.5%, but at the higher level ABA not so great.
He's shooting 33% in the g-league since January 1.
Obviously while he wasn't drafted to be a 3-point specialist, his form still doesn't inspire confidence in me like seeing Bertans overseas. Bertans had that quick high release with the high arc and was just untouchable. Samanic in comparison is low arcing release and he barely jumps compared to Bertans.
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