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    Clinton shot at Bin Laden but missed.
    Check this link while you're in whatever your todays US Gov't en lement line is.

    From the LA Times, a totally pro Clinton media source:
    Bill Clinton: 'I could have killed' Osama bin Laden in 1998

    https://www.latimes.com/nation/natio...801-story.html

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    Letting Iranian know that he's not futzing around.
    Launched planes, let Iranian radar pick it up.

    Now it's like you wanna talk or you want me to follow thru next time?

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    Trash, master geopolitical diplomat extraordinaire, wants to do Fart of The Deal with Iran, since it worked so well with NK and CN.

    the Fart: do what I want or I'll bomb the out of you.

    mafiya Don Trump-olone: "Nice country ya got there. Would be a shame if something happened to it."

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    Letting Iranian know that he's not futzing around.
    Launched planes, let Iranian radar pick it up.

    Now it's like you wanna talk or you want me to follow thru next time?
    They called his bluff and he folded. Call to warn them and then back down?

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    Clinton doesn't want to kill 300 innocent civilians -- Carbbs loses his 20 years later.

    Trump doesn't want to kill 150 people of undetermined innocence -- Carbbs immediately touches himself.

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    We just need to shoot down another airliner to show em we are serious.

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    " ed and loaded"

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    America can't do a damn thing to us -Imam Khomeini

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    Clinton doesn't want to kill 300 innocent civilians -- Carbbs loses his 20 years later.

    Trump doesn't want to kill 150 people of undetermined innocence -- Carbbs immediately FONDLES himself.
    FIFY

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    Stupid white supremacist - useful idiot - now finds himself in a pickle

    his hatred of black president led him to be compromised by foreign agents who saw amerikkkan white supremacist supporters were the key to amerikkka destroying itself from the inside

    the useful idiot’s greed $$$ allowed those foreign agents to buy him completely for their use

    iran and amerikkka played like pawns

    putin & mbs high fiving at their last meeting was aimed directly at stupid trump supporters

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    " ed and loaded"
    The Best Words in The Best Idioms

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    RED LINE -


    CROSSED!

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    So your dip president didn't bother ing getting enough information before ordering servicemembers to potentially start a war,, then finds out that bombing things kills people and changed his mother ing mind?

    Guess he still has your vote, because "magic R".

    The fact that this dip is about to get people killed but can't be bothered to ask questions or read briefings BEFORE making orders... holy balls. We knew he was unstable incompetent before, but this takes the cake.

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    Letting Iranian know that he's not futzing around.
    Launched planes, let Iranian radar pick it up.

    Now it's like you wanna talk or you want me to follow thru next time?
    It would be hard for Iran to see planes on radar when Trump called off the strike before any planes took off.

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    Welp, start getting those iodine tablets ready

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    This is a reach. Trump made the right move in not going forward with a strike. The fact that he almost went through with it but ended up not doing so doesn’t make us look weak.
    But not finding out about casualties BEFORE giving the orders, makes you look like an idiot.

    FWIW, this was an expensive loss:

    The U.S. military drone Iran shot down over the Persian Gulf on Thursday was a high-flying prototype model belonging to the Navy.

    The Navy for years has deployed the Broad Area Maritime Surveillance Demonstrator, or BAMS-D, drones on an emergency basis, stationing the 737-size unmanned aerial vehicles to watch over Syria and Iran.

    The unarmed BAMS-D drone “was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile system while operating in international airspace over the Strait of Hormuz,” Navy Capt. Bill Urban, a U.S. Central Command spokesperson, told The Daily Beast via email.

    “Iranian reports that the aircraft was over Iran are false,” Urban added.

    The Pentagon’s decision to deploy the rare BAMS-D underscores the military’s urgency amid escalating tensions between the United States and Iran. Prior to the shoot-down, the Navy possessed just four copies of the BAMS-D, which is a naval variant of the RQ-4 Global Hawk that Northrop Grumman builds for the Air Force.

    A single Global Hawk sells for more than $200 million, counting the cost of its sensors. Operators control the drone from work stations on the ground, beaming commands via satellite to the pilotless aircraft.

    The Pentagon began developing the Global Hawk and its variants back in the '90s, hoping to replace Cold War-vintage U-2 spy planes. The idea was that a drone, with no pilot aboard, could stay aloft longer and fly riskier missions than a U-2 could do.

    The Global Hawk and its variants can circle at up to 65,000 feet for as many as 30 hours while simultaneously carrying a camera, an infrared sensor, and a radar that can track moving targets.

    In the end, the Air Force decided to keep the U-2 and build up a force of dozens of RQ-4s. The giant drones with the 131-feet wingspan have flown over Iraq and Afghanistan. In 2008, the Navy paid Northrop more than $1 billion to begin developing a version of the Global Hawk with modifications for tracking ships.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/bams-d...type-spy-plane


    Ouch. These things should be fitted with some chaff or missile evasion stuff. No squishy human inside so it could pull enough Gs in manuevers that would kill a person. Makes me wonder how easy it was to shoot down.

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    how the is this development "good"

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    Experts are not buying Trump’s claim for why he called off strike on Iran in mid-air

    “These are not strategically sophisticated people”

    “I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General.”

    Many are asking, how was this not a part of the decision-making process before he gave the order to strike?

    Others just point-blank don’t believe it wasn’t.

    speculation it was Fox News’ Tucker Carlson’s comments that led Trump to back off –

    Carlson advised against the strike.

    But having been part of military CONOPs briefings, they always include an assessment of casualties on both sides at the front end.

    A source told me 30 minutes ago that Trump was pleased with his own performance last night, loved being in command by ordering the strikes and by then ordering the stand-down. And the president just... tweeted it.

    This explanation doesn't smell right.

    The assessments of casualties would have been prepared, known, and discussed long in advance (part of the "CONOP")

    Is Trump saying he asked that question of the General only after authorizing the strike, and when US planes were en route?

    the only constant is the President’s fragile ego.

    This means decisions are made in line

    w/ who/what Trump likes/dislikes at any given moment,

    which shifts depending on who he last spoke with or watched on TV,

    and who was very nice or very unfair to him.

    Again. Very nice or very unfair TO HIM.

    Not the country,

    not the people,

    not his supporters,

    not his party,

    not his cabinet. HIM or anything he sees as an extension of himself,

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/experts-are-not-buying-trumps-claim-for



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    how the is this development "good"
    assuming he meant calling it off good?

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    assuming he meant calling it off good?
    this president gets too much credit for putting out his own fires tbh

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    this president gets too much credit for putting out his own fires tbh
    very true

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    this president gets too much credit for putting out his own fires tbh
    That's fundamental to his totally fraudulent life

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    now he claims it never happened.

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    Float the buoy

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