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    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/55410
    do it liberals KILL jobs!
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    That's a tired ass scare tactic, ducks. I put trace amount of belief in it.

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    ducks and his sources are full of slimey duckshit

    decades of multiple studies about the many raises of Fed minimum since the 1930s have shown that raising the minimum wage has almost no effect the employment rate.

    Which sorta "duck tails" with the bizarre situation that a "full" unemployment rate of 3.6% is not causing wage increases.

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    What about doubling it
    That is what liberals want
    Increasing it by a dollar ok
    Min wage is for teanagers To learn to work
    Not 40 year old men to support their wife and 6 kids because they fuck to much

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    That's a tired ass scare tactic, ducks. I put trace amount of belief in it.
    You don't think Democrats would raise minimum wage or you think that the report is inaccurate?
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    decades of multiple studies about the many raises of Fed minimum since the 1930s have shown that raising the minimum wage has almost no effect the employment rate.
    For average increases, maybe not. But raising it to $15 is a big step that will certainly have effects on employment, especially in rural towns.

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    Does minimum wage applies to mojados? Asking for a friend...
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    For average increases, maybe not. But raising it to $15 is a big step that will certainly have effects on employment, especially in rural towns.
    I really doubt stupid, constipated Congress will do it intelligently, but city, regional costs of living are well known, have been for decades, so $15 in NYC is useless while it would be very helpful in, eg, Victoria TX.

    So one number for the entire country is stupid, but that would be Congress (anyway, the Repugs will block it to side with Capital over Labor)

    and it must be indexed to CoL inflation,

    so Fed minimum would be autonomous Mission Accomplished rather a political football with which Capital abuses Labor.
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    What is the average wage in world

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    You don't think Democrats would raise minimum wage or you think that the report is inaccurate?

    The latter.

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    I think it would be bad for small businesses or rural areas. I would make it $15 for big businesses and $11 or $12 for small businesses or rural areas myself

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    So many businesses depend on cheap labor working for poverty wages, businesses subsidized, aka corporate welfare/socialism, by taxpayers' public assistance to poor people.
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    I think it would be bad for small businesses or rural areas. I would make it $15 for big businesses and $11 or $12 for small businesses or rural areas myself
    Let (us) set the outcome. Us, the marketplace. That rarely happens though. (We) can't be trusted to do what THEY want, so THEY tamp us down. They'll set the marketplace. You know me, AY,,,I spit on THEY.

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    New CBO report shows that a $15 minimum wage will lift 1.3 million people out of poverty

    This week, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released a report assessing the economic impact of a $15 minimum wage.


    They found that 1.3 million people would be lifted out of poverty and that

    some 27.3 million low-wage workers would see annual earnings increase by $44 billion―

    an average $1,500 increase for affected low-wage workers.

    Over the last decade, a $7.25 minimum wage has lost purchasing power to the tune of 17 percent, which translates to a loss of more than $3,000 in annual earnings for a full-time, year-round minimum wage worker.

    Working people need a raise and that starts by raising the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour.

    ... from EPI Policy Center email.



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    Will Better Pay for Employees Cause Restaurants to Disappear?

    The overwhelming conclusion of recent research indicates that

    rising wages have little to no impact on employment numbers,

    A new
    survey of more than 1,900 food service workers conducted by 7shifts, a company that markets a software scheduling platform, showed that,

    despite the
    turnover rate approaching 120%,

    most restaurant employees rated overall happiness with their jobs an 8 on a scale of 1 to 10. More than 30% rated their happiness at 9 of 10.

    Who are these happy people?

    Nearly a third (32.1%) are 16 to 20 years old and

    almost as many (31.5%) are 21 to 25.

    Less than 6% are older than 41.

    The average age for all workers is just 29.

    Younger employees who graduate from high school or college often leave the restaurant business for other careers.

    https://247wallst.com/services/2019/07/10/will-better-pay-for-employees-cause-restaurants-to-disappear/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+typepad%2FRyNm+%2824%2F7+Wall+St.%29


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    Lot of posters spinning cost, a few spinning benefits, how do they balance out?

    For example, it's a very good point that in such a strong economy as we putatively have right now, the ( mainly atudents ans part time) minimum wage workers that would lose their jobs would be likely to replace their income working far fewer hours.

    https://prospect.org/article/conserv...clear-benefits

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    yep, , the oligarchy/Repugs will BLOCK any disruption of their rigged status quo.

    Anyway, $15 NATIONALLY, with no regional cost of living variations, AND not adjusted annually for inflation, is fucking stupid, but that's Congress.

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    Agreed, one size fits all policy generally doesn't.

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    This Map Shows the Hourly Wage Needed to Rent a 2-Bedroom Home in Every State

    51. Arkansas -- $14.26
    50. West Virginia -- $14.27
    49. Mississippi -- $14.43
    48. Kentucky -- $14.84
    47. Alabama -- $14.92
    46. South Dakota -- $15.30
    45. Iowa -- $15.44
    44. Idaho -- $15.47
    43. Oklahoma -- $15.54
    42. Ohio -- $15.73
    41. Kansas -- $15.92
    40. Montana -- $15.97
    39. Missouri -- $16.00
    38. Indiana -- $16.03
    37. Nebraska -- $16.08
    36. New Mexico -- $16.34
    35. Wyoming -- $16.46
    34. Tennessee -- $16.58
    33. North Dakota -- $16.65
    32. Wisconsin -- $16.77
    31. Louisiana -- $16.86
    30. North Carolina -- $16.95
    29. Michigan -- $17.25
    28. South Carolina -- $17.27
    27. Utah -- $18.30
    26. Georgia -- $18.42
    25. Nevada -- $18.85
    24. Pennsylvania -- $19.35
    23. Arizona -- $19.52
    22. Minnesota -- $19.74
    21. Maine -- $19.91
    20. Texas -- $20.29
    19. Illinois -- $20.85
    18. Rhode Island -- $20.86
    17. Delaware -- $21.97
    16. Vermont -- $22.78
    15. Florida -- $22.86
    14. Oregon -- $22.97
    13. Virginia -- $23.13
    12. New Hampshire -- $23.23
    11. Alaska -- $24.84
    10. Colorado -- $25.33
    9. Connecticut -- $25.40
    8. Maryland -- $27.52
    7. Washington -- $27.78
    6. New Jersey -- $28.86
    5. New York -- $30.76
    4. Washington, DC -- $32.02
    3. Massachusetts -- $33.81
    2. California -- $34.69
    1. Hawaii -- $36.82

    https://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/hourly-wages-to-afford-two-bedroom-rent-mapped

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    Nope.

    No evidence of any such thing in any city that has done that.
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    Shocker. Report doesn't actually say that.

    That fewer people might actually not have to work 2+ jobs, would mean such a loss of shitty jobs would mean no dent in the unemployment rate.

    Boo-fucking hoo.

    You really are a dupe for your rich overlords. keep groveling for crumbs, plebe.

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    This Map Shows the Hourly Wage Needed to Rent a 2-Bedroom Home in Every State

    51. Arkansas -- $14.26
    50. West Virginia -- $14.27
    49. Mississippi -- $14.43
    48. Kentucky -- $14.84
    47. Alabama -- $14.92
    46. South Dakota -- $15.30
    45. Iowa -- $15.44
    44. Idaho -- $15.47
    43. Oklahoma -- $15.54
    42. Ohio -- $15.73
    41. Kansas -- $15.92
    40. Montana -- $15.97
    39. Missouri -- $16.00
    38. Indiana -- $16.03
    37. Nebraska -- $16.08
    36. New Mexico -- $16.34
    35. Wyoming -- $16.46
    34. Tennessee -- $16.58
    33. North Dakota -- $16.65
    32. Wisconsin -- $16.77
    31. Louisiana -- $16.86
    30. North Carolina -- $16.95
    29. Michigan -- $17.25
    28. South Carolina -- $17.27
    27. Utah -- $18.30
    26. Georgia -- $18.42
    25. Nevada -- $18.85
    24. Pennsylvania -- $19.35
    23. Arizona -- $19.52
    22. Minnesota -- $19.74
    21. Maine -- $19.91
    20. Texas -- $20.29
    19. Illinois -- $20.85
    18. Rhode Island -- $20.86
    17. Delaware -- $21.97
    16. Vermont -- $22.78
    15. Florida -- $22.86
    14. Oregon -- $22.97
    13. Virginia -- $23.13
    12. New Hampshire -- $23.23
    11. Alaska -- $24.84
    10. Colorado -- $25.33
    9. Connecticut -- $25.40
    8. Maryland -- $27.52
    7. Washington -- $27.78
    6. New Jersey -- $28.86
    5. New York -- $30.76
    4. Washington, DC -- $32.02
    3. Massachusetts -- $33.81
    2. California -- $34.69
    1. Hawaii -- $36.82

    https://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/hourly-wages-to-afford-two-bedroom-rent-mapped
    You are not suppose to rent a house on min wage
    You are to get a good worth ethic

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    That think boutons posted is not true
    I know someone renting a 4 bedroom house for 1100
    He works makes 14 an hour in az says 2 bedroom 19.54 an hour

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    You are not suppose to rent a house on min wage
    You are to get a good worth ethic
    Agreed. Why use "2 bedroom HOME" as your example when there's a such a thing in existence as apartments?
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