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    Will this hypocritical CCW having old just die already.


    http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/publ...ns-ban-summary

    Mass shootings in Newtown, Aurora, and Tucson have demonstrated all too clearly the need to regulate military-style assault weapons and high capacity ammunition magazines. These weapons allow a gunman to fire a large number of rounds quickly and without having to reload.

    What the bill does:

    The legislation bans the sale, transfer, manufacturing and importation of:

    All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: pistol grip; forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel.
    All semiautomatic pistols that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: threaded barrel; second pistol grip; barrel shroud; capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip; or semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.
    All semiautomatic rifles and handguns that have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
    All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
    All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
    157 specifically-named firearms (listed at the end of this page).
    The legislation excludes the following weapons from the bill:

    Any weapon that is lawfully possessed at the date of the bill’s enactment;
    Any firearm manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action;
    Assault weapons used by military, law enforcement, and retired law enforcement; and
    Antique weapons.
    The legislation protects hunting and sporting firearms:

    The bill excludes 2,258 legitimate hunting and sporting rifles and shotguns by specific make and model.
    The legislation strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and state bans by:

    Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test.
    The bill also makes the ban harder to evade by eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test.
    Banning dangerous aftermarket modifications and workarounds.
    Bump or slide fire stocks, which are modified stocks that enable semi-automatic weapons to fire at rates similar to fully automatic machine guns.
    So-called “bullet buttons” that allow the rapid replacement of ammunition magazines, frequently used as a workaround to prohibitions on detachable magazines.
    Thumbhole stocks, a type of stock that was created as a workaround to avoid prohibitions on pistol grips.
    Adding a ban on the importation of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines.
    Eliminating the 10-year sunset that allowed the original federal ban to expire.
    The legislation addresses the millions of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines currently in existence by:

    Requiring a background check on all sales or transfers of a grandfathered assault weapon.
    This background check can be run through the FBI or, if a state chooses, initiated with a state agency, as with the existing background check system.
    Prohibiting the sale or transfer of large-capacity ammunition feeding devices lawfully possessed on the date of enactment of the bill.
    Allowing states and localities to use federal Byrne JAG grant funds to conduct a voluntary buy-back program for grandfathered assault weapons and large-capacity ammunition feeding devices.
    Imposing a safe storage requirement for grandfathered firearms, to keep them away from prohibited persons.
    Requiring that assault weapons and large-capacity ammunition feeding devices manufactured after the date of the bill’s enactment be engraved with the serial number and date of manufacture of the weapon
    Assault weapon bans have been proven to be effective

    The 1994 Assault Weapons Ban was effective at reducing crime and getting these military-style weapons off our streets. Since the ban expired, more than 350 people have been killed and more than 450 injured by these weapons.

    A Justice Department study of the assault weapons ban found that it was responsible for a 6.7% decrease in total gun murders, holding all other factors equal.
    Source: Jeffrey A. Roth & Christopher S. Koper, “Impact Evaluation of the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act of 1994,” (March 1997).
    The same study also found that “Assault weapons are disproportionately involved in murders with multiple victims, multiple wounds per victim, and police officers as victims.”
    The use of assault weapons in crime declined by more than two-thirds by about nine years after 1994 Assault Weapons Ban took effect.
    Source: Christopher S. Koper, “An Updated Assessment of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban: Impacts on Gun Markets and Gun Violence, 1994-2003” (June 2004), University of Pennsylvania, Report to the National Ins ute of Justice, U.S. Department of Justice.
    The percentage of firearms seized by police in Virginia that had high-capacity magazines dropped significantly during the ban. That figure has doubled since the ban expired.
    Source: David S. Fallis and James V. Grimaldi, “In Virginia, high-yield clip seizures rise,” Washington Post, at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...012204046.html
    When Maryland imposed a more stringent ban on assault pistols and high-capacity magazines in 1994, it led to a 55% drop in assault pistols recovered by the Baltimore Police Department.
    Source: Douglas S. Weil & Rebecca C. Knox, Letter to the Editor, The Maryland Ban on the Sale of Assault Pistols and High-Capacity Magazines: Estimating the Impact in Baltimore, 87 Am. J. of Public Health 2, Feb. 1997.
    37% of police departments reported seeing a noticeable increase in criminals’ use of assault weapons since the 1994 federal ban expired.
    Source: Police Executive Research Forum, Guns and Crime: Breaking New Ground by Focusing on the Local Impact (May 2010).  
    List of firearms prohibited by name

    Rifles: All AK types, including the following: AK, AK47, AK47S, AK–74, AKM, AKS, ARM, MAK90, MISR, NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR–47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK–47, VEPR, WASR–10, and WUM, IZHMASH Saiga AK, MAADI AK47 and ARM, Norinco 56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S, Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS; All AR types, including the following: AR–10, AR–15, Armalite M15 22LR Carbine, Armalite M15–T, Barrett REC7, Beretta AR–70, Bushmaster ACR, Bushmaster Carbon 15, Bushmaster MOE series, Bushmaster XM15, Colt Match Target Rifles, DoubleStar AR rifles, DPMS Tactical Rifles, Heckler & Koch MR556, Olympic Arms, Remington R–15 rifles, Rock River Arms LAR–15, Sig Sauer SIG516 rifles, Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles, Stag Arms AR rifles, Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 rifles; Barrett M107A1; Barrett M82A1; Beretta CX4 Storm; Calico Liberty Series; CETME Sporter; Daewoo K–1, K–2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C; Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL, LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000; Feather Industries AT–9; Galil Model AR and Model ARM; Hi-Point Carbine; HK–91, HK–93, HK–94, HK–PSG–1 and HK USC; Kel-Tec Sub–2000, SU–16, and RFB; SIG AMT, SIG PE–57, Sig Sauer SG 550, and Sig Sauer SG 551; Springfield Armory SAR–48; Steyr AUG; Sturm, Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rife M–14/20CF; All Thompson rifles, including the following: Thompson M1SB, Thompson T1100D, Thompson T150D, Thompson T1B, Thompson T1B100D, Thompson T1B50D, Thompson T1BSB, Thompson T1–C, Thompson T1D, Thompson T1SB, Thompson T5, Thompson T5100D, Thompson TM1, Thompson TM1C; UMAREX UZI Rifle; UZI Mini Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine; Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78; Vector Arms UZI Type; Weaver Arms Nighthawk; Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.

    Pistols: All AK–47 types, including the following: Centurion 39 AK pistol, Draco AK–47 pistol, HCR AK–47 pistol, IO Inc. pup AK–47 pistol, Krinkov pistol, Mini Draco AK–47 pistol, Yugo Krebs Krink pistol; All AR–15 types, including the following: American Spirit AR–15 pistol, Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol, DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol, DPMS AR–15 pistol, Olympic Arms AR–15 pistol, Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol; Calico Liberty pistols; DSA SA58 PKP FAL pistol; Encom MP–9 and MP–45; Heckler & Koch model SP-89 pistol; Intratec AB–10, TEC–22 Scorpion, TEC–9, and TEC–DC9; Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol; The following MAC types: MAC–10, MAC–11; Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol; Military Armament Corp. Ingram M–11, Velocity Arms VMAC; Sig Sauer P556 pistol; Sites Spectre; All Thompson types, including the following: Thompson TA510D, Thompson TA5; All UZI types, including: Micro-UZI.

    Shotguns: Franchi LAW–12 and SPAS 12; All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the following: IZHMASH Saiga 12, IZHMASH Saiga 12S, IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP–01, IZHMASH Saiga 12K, IZHMASH Saiga 12K–030, IZHMASH Saiga 12K–040 Taktika; Streetsweeper; Striker 12.

    Belt-fed semiautomatic firearms: All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms including TNW M2HB.

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    So we were right.

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    What was the roll call?

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    tl;dr

    except for:

    The legislation excludes the following weapons from the bill:

    Any weapon that is lawfully possessed at the date of the bill’s enactment;
    Any firearm manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action;
    Assault weapons used by military, law enforcement, and retired law enforcement; and
    Antique weapons.
    So, by letting us keep the guns we already have, the government is really coming after our guns. I guess.

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    tl;dr

    except for:



    So, by letting us keep the guns we already have, the government is really coming after our guns. I guess.
    did you miss where you couldn't sell or transfer said guns? If passed, the people will eventually only be able to purchase what the government deems a sporting or hunting firearm. Where in the second amendment does it mention the right to bear arms is limited to sporting and hunting?

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    Since they aren't registered, who's to stop you from selling it?

    This generally means they will stop the manufacture of said weapons, par per what I said a month ago.

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    Civil war looms. Actually probably not, this is a joke and nobody cares about her lame bill it won't pass.

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    My belt feds aren't semiauto so I don't have anything to worry about.

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    did you miss where you couldn't sell or transfer said guns? If passed, the people will eventually only be able to purchase what the government deems a sporting or hunting firearm. Where in the second amendment does it mention the right to bear arms is limited to sporting and hunting?
    Where in the second amendment does it mention the right to bear arms is not limited to a mentally deranged person with a violent criminal history? It doesn't. In fact, it says that his right to bear arms shall not be infringed. You cool with that?

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    Where in the second amendment does it mention the right to bear arms is not limited to a mentally deranged person with a violent criminal history? It doesn't. In fact, it says that his right to bear arms shall not be infringed. You cool with that?
    That's an aggressively gay question.

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    That's an aggressively gay question.
    It has the same validity of your question.

    Also, even not being able to sell your gun doesn't make it "they are coming for my guns". In fact it makes it so that "no one can come for your guns" including those with cash.

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    What was the roll call?

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    did you miss where you couldn't sell or transfer said guns? If passed, the people will eventually only be able to purchase what the government deems a sporting or hunting firearm. Where in the second amendment does it mention the right to bear arms is limited to sporting and hunting?
    so they're coming after the guns you didn't purchase yet... ie: not your guns...

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    It has the same validity of your question.

    Also, even not being able to sell your gun doesn't make it "they are coming for my guns". In fact it makes it so that "no one can come for your guns" including those with cash.
    Where did i pose a question?

    So you agree with me not being able to sell my own property?

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    So you agree with me not being able to sell my own property?
    I said that they aren't coming for your guns.

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    I said that they aren't coming for your guns.
    Well I consider future purchases to be "my guns".

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    Well I consider future purchases to be "my guns".
    Ok, you may consider that. It's not true though. Those future guns belong to the person whose land the metal will come out of to make them at this moment in time.

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    That's an aggressively gay question.
    Still, would you mind answering it?

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    I can't believe some of you do not see the slippery slope here. The government is slowly trying to disarm its population. When the next mass killer sits up in a wooded hilltop plucking off kids one by one with a long range bolt action deer rifle are those firearms next? After that, it will be another firearm used. Eventually we'll only be allowed to have flintlock pistols, besides the criminals of course.

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    Still, would you mind answering it?
    Don't need to, I've already made it clear I'm for more thorough background checks. I like to work with this thing called common sense.

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    FWIW, government banning sales isn't even new... not that it matters in this case because the law has zero chance of passing... but there's ample precedent, including drugs, patents, prohibition, etc...

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    I can't believe some of you do not see the slippery slope here. The government is slowly trying to disarm its population.
    There's no slippery slope because that law has zero chance of passing, thus the government isn't slowly disarming anybody.

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    Heck, the fact that the law has zero chance of passing it's a clear indicator the government has zero interest in disarming the population.

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    Don't need to, I've already made it clear I'm for more thorough background checks. I like to work with this thing called common sense.
    So in other words you are for some gun control and in essence infringing on some person's right to bear arms. Now it's just a matter of degree. You have your opinion and can vote for representatives that support your view and others can vote for representatives that support views that differ from yours.

    And as has been pointed out multiple times there is nothing in the Feinstein bill that confiscates or requires compulsory buy-back. So no, no one is coming for your guns.

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