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    Problem I have is that NBA deals haven't been enforceable until signed tbh. It's a league problem. There is a lot of going back and forth and contingencies built in. And just bc an agreement is announced doesn't mean there's an agreement tbh. It's too much to ask a guy to leave $5 million on the table when he had already let it be known to his agent that he wanted to get paid and an offer for more sprung up while he wasn't signed. The NBA allows offers to be made to players that are not under contract. All sorts of problems can pop up. Spurs wouldn't have been in a position to even offer the money to Morris until they dealt Bertans into another teams capspace anyways. The NYK offer popped up almost concurrently when that happened bc it was reported that the Spurs knew before hand and there were rumors about it kept under wraps. Heck Spurs were looking to deal Belinelli to get a shooting forward b4 this became public. Paul jumped the gun on that announcement while there were still other possibilities and Morris wanted more $ all along which he knew. Something similar happened with Noel this season. After his agreement was announced another subsequently dropped that he was holding off to consider other offers.
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    Problem I have is that NBA deals haven't been enforceable until signed tbh. It's a league problem. There is a lot of going back and forth and contingencies built in. And just bc an agreement is announced doesn't mean there's an agreement tbh. It's too much to ask a guy to leave $5 million on the table when he had already let it be known to his agent that he wanted to get paid and an offer for more sprung up while he wasn't signed. The NBA allows offers to be made to players that are not under contract. All sorts of problems can pop up. Spurs wouldn't have been in a position to even offer the money to Morris until they dealt Bertans into another teams capspace anyways. The NYK offer popped up almost concurrently when that happened bc it was reported that the Spurs knew before hand and there were rumors about it kept under wraps. Heck Spurs were looking to deal Belinelli to get a shooting forward b4 this became public. Paul jumped the gun on that announcement while there were still other possibilities and Morris wanted more $ all along which he knew. Something similar happened with Noel this season. After his agreement was announced another subsequently dropped that he was holding off to consider other offers.
    Not true. Morris was offered the MLE, and didn't use a dime of the space created by the Bertans trade. The problem was that SA had already offered part of the MLE to Demarre Carroll, and rather than appear to revoke that offer, they created the space for Carroll with the trade, so that he wasn't left hanging. In today's NBA, they absolutely could have left Carroll hanging, and waited out Morris. When he reneged, they could have then circled back around and re-offered part of the MLE to Carroll and kept Bertans.
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    The anti-Klutch narrative was more fun than Morris just being a dick

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    Not true. Morris was offered the MLE, and didn't use a dime of the space created by the Bertans trade. The problem was that SA had already offered part of the MLE to Demarre Carroll, and rather than appear to revoke that offer, they created the space for Carroll with the trade, so that he wasn't left hanging. In today's NBA, they absolutely could have left Carroll hanging, and waited out Morris. When he reneged, they could have then circled back around and re-offered part of the MLE to Carroll and kept Bertans.
    technicality. You know what I meant. There wasn't money to be offered until that trade. If they didn't want Carroll they wouldn't have pursued him. They wanted Carroll regardless.

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    I'm guessing the Clips offer was a 3/$41 million? That would have been before the Kawhi/George signing. Even so, he could have signed with a stable ascending team in LA, with a good coach and owner, instead of signing with the worst team in the league buried behind three other PFs.
    What a horrific stupid mistake. He had a chance to ring next year.

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    I'm guessing the Clips offer was a 3/$41 million? That would have been before the Kawhi/George signing. Even so, he could have signed with a stable ascending team in LA, with a good coach and owner, instead of signing with the worst team in the league buried behind three other PFs.
    What a horrific stupid mistake. He had a chance to ring next year.
    I'm pretty sure it was 4/$41M

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    I'm pretty sure it was 4/$41M
    The more I think about, you're probably right. Probably a 4 year with the 4th year player option. So about $10 million per. He declines that offer for the Spurs 2 year $21 million with one year player option. He must have initially thought he could put up good numbers with the Spurs and cash in next year. Instead he went for the Knick $15 million one year. Total idiot.

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    The anti-Klutch narrative was more fun than Morris just being a dick
    That is racist
    You said dick instead of pussy
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    That is racist
    You said dick instead of pussy
    that would be sexist, not racist. and i've already done time, was banned a week for misogyny on some weak shit tbh

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    that would be sexist, not racist. and i've already done time, was banned a week for misogyny on some weak shit tbh
    lmao so victim

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