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  1. #76
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    rewarding Kobe for not passing the ball to Shaq to pad his own stats.

    One record nobody can ever surpass Kobe though - Bricks.
    I'll take this post as your concession. Thanks for playing

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    2008-09 season.
    Gasol: 126/105 O/Drating
    Kobe: 115/106

    Gasol: 13.9 WS, .223 WS/48, 3.3 OBPM, 1.7 DBPM, 5.0 BPM, 5.3 VORP
    Kobe: 12.7, .206, 4.8, -0.2, 4.5, 4.9

    Playoffs:
    Gasol: 124/102
    Kobe: 117/104

    Gasol: 4.3, .221, 3.0, 3.5, 6.5, 2.0
    Kobe: 4.7, .238, 6.7, 0.8, 7.5, 2.2

    The reason Kobe was able to "go off" is because he played against teams like the Jazz, Rockets, and Nuggets then Magic in the finals. This is about the easiest path to the finals by a team ever.

    Kobe was an expert in going off on bad compe ion to bad his stats. The only time he ever got off against "good" compe ion was when he did it against geriatric Terry Porter and Steve Smith against the Spurs. Other times? he got outplayed thoroughly by Austin Croshere, Reggie Miller, Rip Hamilton and Paul Pierce.
    Before Kobe boiled down
    Shaq 0; lowlight: swept by Dream in Finals
    Pau 0; lowlights: 0-12 in playoffs; swept by Jim

    After Kobe boiled down
    Shaq 1; lowlight: donned a Celtic jersey
    Pau 0; lowlight: donned a Spur jersey

    Kobe won 3 before Pau and 2 after ShaqPERIOD

    That's it, and that's all.

  3. #78
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    I'll take this post as your concession. Thanks for playing
    How so? Kobe scored a lot more because he kept shooting and refused to pass to his teammates. It costs his team multiple playoff appearances, and at least one ring.

    Before Kobe boiled down
    Shaq 0; lowlight: swept by Dream in Finals
    Pau 0; lowlights: 0-12 in playoffs; swept by Jim

    After Kobe boiled down
    Shaq 1; lowlight: donned a Celtic jersey
    Pau 0; lowlight: donned a Spur jersey

    Kobe won 3 before Pau and 2 after ShaqPERIOD

    That's it, and that's all.
    Do you want to talk about Kobe's lowlights? It would take a while.

    Kobe is a better player because he was on better teams, that's the only move Kobestans have.

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    How so? Kobe scored a lot more because he kept shooting and refused to pass to his teammates. It costs his team multiple playoff appearances, and at least one ring.



    Do you want to talk about Kobe's lowlights? It would take a while.

    Kobe is a better player because he was on better teams, that's the only move Kobestans have.
    Go for it. Knock yourself out champ

    I'm sticking with

    Kobe 5
    Shaq 4
    Pau 2

    ^ hard to refute facts huh?

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    Go for it. Knock yourself out champ

    I'm sticking with

    Kobe 5
    Shaq 4
    Pau 2

    ^ hard to refute facts huh?
    Horry 7
    Kobe 5
    ^ hard to refute facts huh?

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    Horry 7
    Kobe 5
    ^ hard to refute facts huh?
    Nah, not at all in this case. Horry has 0 all star appearances and 0% chance of making it to the Hall of Fame. Bad comparison. -200 points son

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    Nah, not at all in this case. Horry has 0 all star appearances and 0% chance of making it to the Hall of Fame. Bad comparison. -200 points son
    When is that a criteria? You just came up with that?

    Sam Jones 10, HoFer. 5x allstar.
    Kobe 5

    Sam Jones twice as good as kobe.

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    When is that a criteria? You just came up with that?

    Sam Jones 10, HoFer. 5x allstar.
    Kobe 5

    Sam Jones twice as good as kobe.
    I'm not talking to you anymore about Kobe

  9. #84
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    I'm not talking to you anymore about Kobe
    I accept your surrender.

  10. #85
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    I accept your surrender.
    Hey, fart-face.

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    Hey, fart-face.

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    Hey, fart-face.
    What are you doing here. Chicken .

  13. #88
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    What are you doing here. Chicken .
    You're the one who didn't show up after Florida. I stood here by myself.
    I'm the one who showed up a year later when you won your 5th for the 2nd time.

    Me.

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    You're the one who didn't show up after Florida. I stood here by myself.
    I'm the one who showed up a year later when you won your 5th for the 2nd time.

    Me.
    Bull . I’m here through and through. Show me my login history and the hole after Florida.

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    Bull . I’m here through and through. Show me my login history and the hole after Florida.
    You may have signed in, but, that don't count for , son. You would not engage. You were on your own couch, in a fetal position, in misery, crying, chafing, with heavy diaper, instead of coming in here and engaging your Cubby, your loyal opposition, your betters.

    A year later, when I lost & you finally won your 5th, for the 2nd time I didn't leave. I laid down one of the greatest counter attacks in the history of the Internet. Over a 1,000 posts in about 24 hours lamenting my misery, my disappointment, my heartbreak.

    Because that's, the kinda guy I am. I wear my heart on my sleeve. There's no deceit, what you see.........it's what you get. Honesty, Caucasian in the highest tradition, a renaissance man.

    You didn't show up, none of ya's did. I understood. I never threw it in your face when ya's straggled in a fortnight later. You were beat up, & rough looking like you'd been livin' in your cars. I didn't jump on ya's. I coddled ya's, passed around the tin can, took a collection, matched it, still waiting on Splits to make good on his match. I'll remain old & gray before that happens, but, that's neither here, nor there. That cheap SOB, Splits. I could tell you tales about his cheapness that would curl your toes, that SOB.

    No. You guys didn't show at your loss. I showed at your victory.

    Me.

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    You may have signed in, but, that don't count for , son. You would not engage. You were on your own couch, in a fetal position, in misery, crying, chafing, with heavy diaper, instead of coming in here and engaging your Cubby, your loyal opposition, your betters.

    A year later, when I lost & you finally won your 5th, for the 2nd time I didn't leave. I laid down one of the greatest counter attacks in the history of the Internet. Over a 1,000 posts in about 24 hours lamenting my misery, my disappointment, my heartbreak.

    Because that's, the kinda guy I am. I wear my heart on my sleeve. There's no deceit, what you see.........it's what you get. Honesty, Caucasian in the highest tradition, a renaissance man.

    You didn't show up, none of ya's did. I understood. I never threw it in your face when ya's straggled in a fortnight later. You were beat up, & rough looking like you'd been livin' in your cars. I didn't jump on ya's. I coddled ya's, passed around the tin can, took a collection, matched it, still waiting on Splits to make good on his match. I'll remain old & gray before that happens, but, that's neither here, nor there. That cheap SOB, Splits. I could tell you tales about his cheapness that would curl your toes, that SOB.

    No. You guys didn't show at your loss. I showed at your victory.

    Me.
    I was here. I engaged. I posted.

  17. #92
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    I was here. I engaged. I posted.
    No, you didn't.

    But, you guys were hurtin' for certain. I been there. Well, not quite there-there. They've never sold my . But, I treated ya's decent & kind & loving when ya's finally did come stragglin' in.

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    No, you didn't.

    But, you guys were hurtin' for certain. I been there. Well, not quite there-there. They've never sold my . But, I treated ya's decent & kind & loving when ya's finally did come stragglin' in.
    Prove it. Don't use general statements like "you guys". I am one person.
    Don't just say you remembered, no you didn't. You can't even tell I was one person or just one of a group.

    On the other hand, you, on record, went into the hiding room when things get tough.

    You vamoosed after 5.

  19. #94
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    Prove it. Don't use general statements like "you guys". I am one person.
    Don't just say you remembered, no you didn't. You can't even tell I was one person or just one of a group.
    I don't have to prove it. I know it to be true. That's enough for me.

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    I don't have to prove it. I know it to be true. That's enough for me.
    But I know it is false.

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    kobes parents were selling his

    /thread
    /forum
    /cubby

  22. #97
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    kobes parents were selling his

    /thread
    /forum
    /cubby
    Florida

  23. #98
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    But I know it is false.
    More power to ya, amb.

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    More power to ya, amb.
    Ditto, just that you are living in a lie.

    If that's what you need to find peace so be it.

    It happens.
    I don't need anything to find peace. I do know you aren't resting in peace though.

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    Ditto, just that you are living in a lie.



    I don't need anything to find peace. I do know you aren't resting in peace though.
    ...true, & I don't portend to. I don't my hide my . It's my religion.

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