Michael Jordan. Some dumbass on this forum started calling him "dad killer" at some point.
Michael Jordan. Some dumbass on this forum started calling him "dad killer" at some point.
Second best scorer in the three point era as well
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...scorer-nba-era
Only Wilt in the pre-three point era.
Great SG and PG.
Ambchang not understanding the concept that greatness is about big moments, times in which Harden fell to his knees and needed people like a TOSB JSmoove and a TOSB Jet to bail him out. You don't get to enter "best" discussions when you have gone through so many mid to top tier players on your roster and never sniffed the Finals because you the bed in the big series.
On the flip side, Lebron makes every team he's been on an instant contender, as long as he's healthy and has some talent alongside him. Of course, the Lakers have a history of being overloaded with the league's best talent so of course they'll pull the best tier 1 players in the game and stack. Harden will never be that guy though, not as a 1st option.
He had Howard, Carmelo, CP3 and Westbrook. Please stop saying he needs more talent around him. More people watching him shoot freethrows isn't going to change their fortune. Without Klay and Steph on the team, their all or nothing chuckfest will mostly be nothing.
None of those are close to shaq.
Every great player in history has failed at some point on the big stage, but other than Karl Malone, I can't think of anyone who has failed as often and spectacularly as Harden.
Regular season Harden is in the goat conversation for perimeter players. Playoffs Harden is just another dude...
Kobe obliterated our Spurs in 2008 without Shaq, tbh...that feat alone is more impressive than anything Harden has done in the playoffs.
And before you bring up Pau, yes, he had Pau. After Pau, that Lakers team had Odom and a bunch of journeymen (Bynum was hurt in 08).
I like Amb but he is so full of on this one.
This is akin to someone using Malone's regular season stats/numbers/analytics to argue Karl over Tim.
But Amb being Amb he never admits when he is wrong. He picks and chooses the metrics that suit his argument and anytime he is proven wrong will talk in circles until the other side gives up. He is the filibuster of Spurstalk.
Harden is a great scorer one of the best iso scorers in NBA history. But still a flopper stat padder choker overrated and not the 2nd best SG.
This..all of it. Can we close this idiotic thread now?
And then got outplayed by Pierce the next round.
Harden had some nice series too.
Actually not disagreeing with most of your points. Original point still stands.
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