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    People forget the 1997-2004 Spurs teams perennially owned some of the league's slowest paces. This contributed to most Spur players having lower per game averages.

    And since the majority of the country has their collective opinions warped by the BSPN talking heads (analysts who mainly look at per game stats to value/rank players) then Americans in general have consistently underrated the Spurs' greats.
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    Timmy's easily top-7 all-time in terms of all-around game, and probably number 1 if you want to talk about the ultimate teammate. Man it was awesome to have witnessed that first hand. You hear the old-man stories about guys who got to see Russell and Wilt play...someday all of us lucky s will get to say we saw Tim Duncan do his work. Pretty cool. He's definitely a guy where the raw stats do little to justify his incredible impact on the court.

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    People forget the 1997-2004 Spurs teams perennially owned some of the league's slowest paces. This contributed to most Spur players having lower per game averages.

    And since the majority of the country has their collective opinions warped by the BSPN talking heads (analysts who mainly look at per game stats to value/rank players) then Americans in general have consistently underrated the Spurs' greats.
    Additionally no small contributor is the phucking he and the Spurs got from RiggedRef.
    Dirk stepping on his foot etc etc.

    Spurs were never the Stern and media choice.

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    Tim's peak seasons ('97-'07) are very comparable to Hakeem's.

    Check out the per 100 possession numbers: http://bkref.com/tiny/HVs2c

    If you prefer raw stats they check out their first 6 when Tim was carrying the entire offense: http://bkref.com/tiny/cXIaS
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    Here are some stats I extracted for the GOAT Big Men in their peak

    PEAK


    Player Names Season Games Stats Type
    Tim Duncan 02-03 33 games Basic
    Tim Duncan 02-03 33 games 100 Poss
    Hakeem Olajuwon 94-95 45 games Basic
    Hakeem Olajuwon 94-95 45 games 100 Poss
    Shaquille O'Neal 00-01 39 games Basic
    Shaquille O'Neal 00-01 39 games 100 Poss
    Karl Malone 97-98 40 games Basic
    Karl Malone 97-98 40 games 100 Poss
    Charles Barkley 93-94 34 games Basic
    Charles Barkley 93-94 34 games 100 Poss
    Kevin Garnett 03-04 24 games Basic
    Kevin Garnett 03-04 24 games 100 Poss
    Dirk Nowitzki 10-11 27 games Basic
    Dirk Nowitzki 10-11 27 games 100 Poss
    David Robinson 95-96 25 games Basic
    David Robinson 95-96 25 games 100 Poss
    Patrick Ewing 93-94 40 games Basic
    Patrick Ewing 93-94 40 games 100 Poss

    PER 100 POSS
    Row Labels Sum of PPG Sum of RPG Sum of APG Sum of BPG Sum of SPG
    Dirk Nowitzki 38.7 11.5 3.7 0.9 0.9
    Hakeem Olajuwon 38.2 13.2 5.4 4.2 1.8
    Shaquille O'Neal 37.6 19 3.8 2.9 0.6
    Karl Malone 36.2 15.4 4.3 1.2 1.7
    David Robinson 34.2 15.7 3.9 3.6 2.1
    Charles Barkley 32.3 16.1 5.3 1.2 2.3
    Tim Duncan 32.2 19.1 6.6 4.5 0.8
    Patrick Ewing 30.8 15.1 3.3 3.5 1.6
    Kevin Garnett 30.2 18 6.2 2.6 1.7
    Grand Total 310.4 143.1 42.5 24.6 13.5

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    In terms of absolute scoring, Timmy is relatively weak comparing with other GOAT bigs (though still at All-Time Great level), yet his offense efficiency (ORTG, TS%), and offensive output (OBPM and OWS, not included in the chart) is at the top-tier level among the GOAT bigs. That means he is definitely offensively great, if not superior.

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    Someone explain how he always got that easy bank shot off without getting blocked...guess just reading defenders spacing

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    Someone explain how he always got that easy bank shot off without getting blocked...guess just reading defenders spacing
    He was dangerous going to his right
    Little fake right, create some daylight and voila

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