trump impeachment watch thread

[TSA]

oh wow, another day where both sides claim they DESTROYED the other side, and nothing actually happens.

[Blake]

You bring nothing to the table, ever.

Nothing at the table is better than a big bowl of Twitter

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Will Trash get low-brow fired from Fox?

Fox’s Napolitano:

GOP Wants to ‘Undermine the Witnesses

Rather Than Address the Merits’ Because

a Quid Pro Quo ‘Clearly’ Violates Bribery Laws

Napolitano expressed doubt that any minds were changed on Wednesday.

He also spelled out the Republican battle plan —

one which he believes was borne out of the GOP’s inability to excuse the president’s behavior on the merits.

“I think that the argument that

asking for a favor in return for doing a legal obligation — releasing the funds — is pretty clearly a violation of a criminal bribery laws,”

Napolitano said.

“Republicans may not want to acknowledge that,

which is why they’d rather undermine the witnesses than address the merits.”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/foxs-napolitano-gop-wants-to-undermine-the-witnesses-rather-than-address-the-merits-because-a-quid-pro-quo-clearly-violates-bribery-laws/

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Brine That Turkey‏Verified account @carolrhartsell

@carolrhartsell

“As I testified, Mr. Jordan…” is the classiest way I’ve ever heard someone say,

“Listen, burger.”

#ImpeachmentHearings

10:41 AM - 13 Nov 2019

https://twitter.com/carolrhartsell/status/1194686769721155585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1194686769721155585&ref_url =https%3A%2F%2Ftheoldreader.com%2Fposts%2Fall

[TSA]

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[RandomGuy]

You brought up this and said they were debunked and investigating them served no interest to the U.S, not me.

Both links fixed. Both links sourced. Both links prove them out.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukrain...ger-court-says

Now explain why investigating Ukraine’s role in 2016 election interference is not in the interest of the U.S.

Russia’s effort was personally directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, involved the country’s military and foreign intelligence services, according to U.S. intelligence officials. They reportedly briefed Trump last week on the possibility that Russian operatives might have compromising information on the president-elect. And at a Senate hearing last week on the hacking, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said “I don't think we've ever encountered a more aggressive or direct campaign to interfere in our election process than we've seen in this case.”

There’s little evidence of such a top-down effort by Ukraine. Longtime observers suggest that the rampant corruption, factionalism and economic struggles plaguing the country — not to mention its ongoing strife with Russia — would render it unable to pull off an ambitious covert interference campaign in another country’s election.

Ukrainian "interference" amounted to some government officials talking smack about Trump and pointing out Trump's campaign manager had ongoing involvement with that Russian linked oligarch.

The same leaks that lead to Mueller uncovering Manaforts crimes in hiding income from the IRS.

What needs investigating TSA?

[RandomGuy]

You brought up this and said they were debunked and investigating them served no interest to the U.S, not me.

Both links fixed. Both links sourced. Both links prove them out.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ukrain...ger-court-says

Now explain why investigating Ukraine’s role in 2016 election interference is not in the interest of the U.S.

Now explain why Trump actually held up the aid. Be specific, and provide supporting evidence.

Trump held up the aid as extortion so he could get a bribe from Ukraine in the form of investigations into his political rivals.

That was what all the people who have testified understood to be the case, and why you are so desperate to change the subject, because you yourself admitted that should be impeachable.

[RandomGuy]

Perhaps Trump should cooperate with the inquiry and let witnesses be heard instead of ordering them not to testify.

An honest man has nothing to hide, right?

If video of an asshole Indian beating his drum in the face of a teenager didn't stop the media from demonizing an innocent teenager with remarkable restraint then trying to avoid a show seems imperative. Your "honest man" pla udes don't mean .

Translation:

I can't answer the question in a way that doesn't make Trump look like , so let me change the subject. "LOOK OVER THERE!"

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Trump Breached US Security With Unsecured Cell Phone Call In Ukraine Scheme

When Gordon Sondland called Trump from Kyiv to update him on the shakedown of Ukraine for a Biden investigation,

the Russians heard it all.

A U.S. ambassador’s cellphone call to President Trump from a restaurant in the capital of Ukraine last summer was

a stunning breach of security,

exposing the conversation to surveillance by foreign intelligence services, including Russia’s,

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/11...iticus+USA+%29


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Ambassador’s cellphone call to Trump from Kyiv restaurant was a stunning breach of security

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...39d_story.html

[Reck]

you've gotten so creepy with the Trump worshipping dude. I mean, just say you'd toss his salad already.

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GOP Lawmaker Promotes Impossible Barack Obama Conspiracy Theory During Impeachment Hearings

Rep. Brad Wenstrup (R-Ohio) was not about to be outdone.

“Maybe now we understand no!

what President [Barack] Obama meant when he told Russian President [Dmitry] Medvedev that he’d have more flexibility after his election,”

Wenstrup theorized while finishing up his time with Taylor.

“Maybe NO!

that flexibility was to deny lethal aide to the Ukraine–allowing Russia to march right in and kill Ukrainians.”

Vox’s Aaron Rupar was taking notes:

Aaron Rupar
✔@atrupar


@RepBradWenstrup accuses

the Obama administration of colluding with Russia to .... hurt Ukraine?

As opposed to Trump, who he absurdly portrays as Ukraine's staunch ally.

It doesn't make much sense.

https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/gop-lawmaker-promotes-impossible-barack-obama-conspiracy-theory-during-impeachment-hearings/

[koriwhat]

I mean, just say you'd toss his salad already.

the details of your lifestyle we don't care to read about...

[baseline bum]

Nothing happened except a bunch of overpaid blowhards blew really hard. Nothing will come of this, because there is nothing Trump could do that would cause his fanbase to turn on him. They could leak a video of Trump ting on the American flag and Trump s would defend it by claiming a deep state operate put ex-lax in his Diet Coke.

[Chris]

[Luka Doncic]

the make believe world yall lefty's live in is so hyperbolic and asinine.

And yet as a diehard Trump you can’t deny that you will defend him under any and all cir stances.

[koriwhat]

And yet as a diehard Trump you can’t deny that you will defend him under any and all cir stances.

a diehard trump ... the bull yall peddle here is worse than snake oil.

“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."

good going Saul Goebbels

[pgardn]

Red team strategy exactly as predicted.

Deflect onto corruption in Ukraine (no !? It’s real and our orange turd is on it thank God) or defend the call as normal diplomatic relations. What else is there? I guess try to make the witnesses central instead of the call.

Why is Trump spending so much time trying to change Ukrainian corruption and stick to Russia? We can force changes in Russia without sending them money. And maybe check out his own foreign holdings as promised in his most transparent president ever statements. “You will not testify, I’m transparent. Im so transparent I’m invisible”

[koriwhat]

I guess try to make the witnesses central instead of the call.

how exactly are they witnesses when they witnessed nothing and not one of them were there in on the call? 2nd-3rd-4th hand hearsay... interesting witnesses.

[pgardn]

how exactly are they witnesses when they witnessed nothing and not one of them were there in on the call? 2nd-3rd-4th hand hearsay... interesting witnesses.

Exactly as stated.


Witnesses.... icing.

Cake, the call.

Defend the president of the US asking a foreign country (therefore foreign intelligence) to investigate a presidential opponent in an upcoming election. You want foreign intelligence services being paid for helping US political candidates? Better yet, you can let foreign countries decide which candidates we put up for election.
Do you understand history and why the writers of the cons ution DID NOT want foreign interference in our elections? Koriwhat, the true globalist? Ok then.

You don’t need witnesses for the above. Just say the president did not know what the fck he was doing.

[koriwhat]

Exactly as stated.


Witnesses.... icing.

Cake, the call.

Defend the president of the US asking a foreign country (therefore foreign intelligence) to investigate a presidential opponent in an upcoming election. You want foreign intelligence services being paid for helping US political candidates? Better yet, you can let foreign countries decide which candidates we put up for election.
Do you understand history and why the writers of the cons ution DID NOT want foreign interference in our elections?

You don’t need witnesses for the above. Just say the president did not know what the fck he was doing.

lol you don't want foreign interference as the DNC server lays dormant in the Ukraine which has yet to be looked at by the FBI.

those witnesses aren't witnesses at all tbh and you know it just like i do. it's a circus show with the lefty's on the hill.

as well, i would want my president to look into corruption whether or not you do. biden is on record presenting a qpq with ukraine but it's all good right?

either way, what's the transcript say?

last, "Defend the president of the US asking a foreign country (therefore foreign intelligence) to investigate a presidential opponent in an upcoming election", what do you say about obama spying on trump's campaign with the help of many foreign intel agencies?

[DarrinS]

The Dems really made a strong case today.

[pgardn]

lol you don't want foreign interference as the DNC server lays dormant in the Ukraine which has yet to be looked at by the FBI.

those witnesses aren't witnesses at all tbh and you know it just like i do. it's a circus show with the lefty's on the hill.

as well, i would want my president to look into corruption whether or not you do. biden is on record presenting a qpq with ukraine but it's all good right?

either way, what's the transcript say?

last, "Defend the president of the US asking a foreign country (therefore foreign intelligence) to investigate a presidential opponent in an upcoming election", what do you say about obama spying on trump's campaign with the help of many foreign intel agencies?

You are repeating the same BS. This aint about Obama son.
And even if it were, give me your links to the bolded.
You wont because it did not take place.
I got a number of transcripts to the phone call, have you read it?

[pgardn]

The Dems really made a strong case today.

What impressed you?
I just got the basics.

I read the call. Its more convincing as an impeachable offense than anything I have seen so far. The rest is basically ornamental to make as many red team members line up when Trump goes down in 2020.

[koriwhat]

You are repeating the same BS. This aint about Obama son.
And even if it were, give me your links to the bolded.
You wont because it did not take place.
I got a number of transcripts to the phone call, have you read it?

lol how about obama's "when i get reelected..." comment to a foreign head?

were you this mad when obama tried to interfere with foreign elections?

and many many more things that don't need to be repeated...

either way, yall lefty's want to brush the past under the carpet but that ploy is played out.

it's time we find out exactly who brought upon the whole bull russia hoax and more!