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    If there’s no dispute where’s there’s no subpoena then there is no obstruction of Congress.
    No legal dispute.

    It's clear tthere'a a political.one. Ken Starr thought Clinton's claims of executive privilege were contemptuous, abusive and impeachable, the idea isn't so out there as you make it sound. It used to be the Starr/Kavanaugh party line.

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    Looking forward to the inbound babble.
    So you will have your pizza with child sauce?

    When you extricate yourself from the web of connecting the dots.

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    In this case Trump has not claimed privilege or overriding NATSEC rationales, or indeed, any credible rationale at all. He has baldly refused to share do ents and witnesses.

    Purer contempt and obstruction can hardly be imagined. To be impeached no law need be broken, it is enough that power be abused.

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    House claims that right is obstruction of Congress.
    Well, no, not really. Congress clearly never made the argument that the executive doesn't have that right. As a matter of fact, they appeared in court. That doesn't mean that the executive actually directing certain employees not to comply with subpoenas isn't obstruction of Congress.

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    Call it what you whatever you want, does the executive branch have that right?

    Trump is probably enjoying watching the frantic dems step on their s over and over again all while his approval ratings reach and all time high during and after impeachment.
    Imagine being such a pathetic submissive sack of that you take pride in your favorite most-powerful-man-in-the-world having an approval rating in the 40's.

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    yikes

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    Imagine being a pathetic submissive sack of
    Don't have to imagine; you display those qualities every time you post : )

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    Show me exactly where he threatened them by withholding aid.

    Just say: Presidential candidates, as long as they arenít Trump, are immune from any investigations into corruption.
    I welcome any legal investigation into any presidential candidate.

    You don't.

    That's why you're not a very good person.

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    Yes, you and Trump's defenders have been banging the table.

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    You claim Trump obstructed congress by going to the courts and asking them to resolve. Make your case. Explain to me how he doesnít have that right and itís obstruction of Congress. Had congress sought subpoenas and Trump ignored even after a court issued an order than youíd have actual obstruction. You donít have and you know it. Looking forward to the inbound babble.
    When did he go to the courts?

    I think you don't understand anything that has happened.

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    Yeah.

    Well his wife is ugly.
    That worked for you before.
    Since Chris is all about getting his king exonerated in a most convincing fashion.
    ”He did nothing wrong...” Then go hide behind the trust people put in the orange liar when they voted for him.
    Or just work for the king before country.

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    When did he go to the courts?

    I think you don't understand anything that has happened.
    There's a reason Trump hasn't claimed executive privilege, there's a good chance he'd get shot down.

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    Congress: we demand these witnesses
    Executive: no, we say they have immunity

    Again, does the executive branch not have a right to ask the judicial branch to settle a dispute with the legislative branch?
    Not necessarily. The executive would need standing (live controversy, capable of redress, etc...). The court abstains from matters all the times as non justiciable political questions. A dispute doesnít necessarily mean the court has to get involved

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    "does the executive branch not have a right to ask the judicial branch to settle a dispute with the legislative branch?"

    Congress has the Cons utional power of oversight of the Exec, esp when the Exec is accused of a impeachable action.

    Trash and his mafiya are GUILTY as of the accusations as proven by their forgetting/lying/obstructing Mueller / Russia and Congress / Ukraine

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    Crappolini - late last night said:

    (while clutching his pearls after nadler called trump team -liars)

    Ētrump is a man of his word!Ē



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    If you have the facts, you bang the facts. Dems have the facts
    If you have the law, you bang the law. Dems have the law
    If you don't have either, your're a Repug

    Repugs attacking the Dems, much like House Repugs, rather than defending the indefensible, confessed Trash


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    Lol

    trump was so concerned about “ukrainian corruption”

    so concerned...that instead of going to USA intel, USA law enforcement, intl law enforcement -


    he asked the “corrupt” ukranians to investigate?



    hahahahahahahaha!!!

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    Lots of people knew he would be impeachable from day one.

    Not you, apparently.

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    White House lawyers begin yelling at Democrats during late-night impeachment trial ó after Trump starts tweeting

    President Donald Trump woke up and began tweeting around midnight EST during the Senate impeachment trial over the amendments over the rules. Thatís when a noticeable thing changed on the Senate floor: Trumpís team started yelling.

    Nearing 1 a.m. EST Tuesday morning while the president was tweeting about impeachment,

    his team began attacking Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY) personally.

    They called him a liar and accused him of attacking the president and demanded an apology.

    After nearly 12 hours this was the first time the White House got even remotely animated after a dull defense of the president.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/white-house-lawyers-begin-yelling-at-democrats-during-late-night-debate-after-trump-starts-tweeting/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3547&re cip_id=298460&list_id=1



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    muh rawstory

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    you rightwingnutjob assholes and Repugs always attack the messenger rather then counter with facts, with refutations, just like Trash's so-called "defense" team is doing now.

    All of you incorrigible deplorables: G F Y




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    Have these hearings been given an end date?
    Can whining Demons extend it or will the show be forced to end on X date?


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