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    Deliverable... simp

    What is fun is that we have begun to get some of the internal discussions taking place.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...e-texts-028139

    Ukrainians thought that it was just the meeting that was being held out as leverage. It was explained to them either their signature would be on the contract, or their brains would be.





    President Golfy McTwitterlazy was "managing a hurricaine"

    Embassador TAYLOR, wonders what is really driving the process and says the quiet part outloud:





    Here is where Sondland has to go from written to a call, so things can be said without having to have a written record.

    You only do that if you have something to hide.




    So... now we have investigations by Urkaine opened... and magically the day before the aid was finally released.
    Taylor wasn't even in the meeting with Zelensky



    And Taylor magically starts talking about security assistance being held up only after meeting with Schiff's staff. You are getting played, again.




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    welp




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    Taylor wasn't even in the meeting with Zelensky



    And Taylor magically starts talking about security assistance being held up only after meeting with Schiff's staff. You are getting played, again.



    So many words. And one question you'll never answer:

    Why did Trump personally put the aid to Ukraine on hold?

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    welp



    TSA really wants to murder the messenger.

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    Trump wants the "deliverables"

    Someone give Martin Scoresese a call, someone wants to audition for his next mob movie.

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    And yet there are ellipses all over the memo. Why not just release the actual transcript that they hid on their secret server?
    After all, it was "perfect"

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    And yet there are ellipses all over the memo. Why not just release the actual transcript that they hid on their secret server?
    My guess is that it rhymes with shmid pro duo

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    welp



    Literally none of this or the length of the transcript or the esoteric exposition of what is or is not a quid pro quo deals with the simple fact that a President repeatedly asked foreign powers to investigate a political rival. I've seen you post -all about that open and obvious fact. I wonder why?

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    But yah, let's obfuscate with 9th level rabbit trails about inane and irrelevant trivialities

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    Treasury IG to probe handling of requests from Ways and Means.

    Trump scandals starting to cascade. Emo Trump won't take it well.

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    My guess is that it rhymes with shmid pro duo
    Maybe there was something more explicit, but the die was cast the second Trump put a hold on the aid. Trump made the ask during the call and Zelensky was going to find out about the hold if he didn't already know. There is nothing any Trump supporter can say to refute any of that.

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    Taylor wasn't even in the meeting with Zelensky

    You're so qute when you are trying to deflect from abuses of power.

    How specifically did Sondland "correct" Taylor? Here I will give you his "correction"


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    =5th time

    Should Trump be impeached if he starts threatening countries for dirt on his political opponents, TSA? Simple yes or no question.
    Sure [denial that a threat was made for dirt]
    Well, we have a standard we can both agree on [threatening another country for dirt on a political rival is an impeachable offense]. A step forward.

    Is Ukraine dependent on US security guarantees and military aid to protect itself from Russia? yes or no.
    The US contributes a lot to the protection of Ukraine. [denial that a threat was made for dirt]
    Another yes.

    We are indeed getting somewhere. 1st time

    Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?

    You might find this link helpful:
    https://www.apnews.com/94fdeaddc6b34c02b97278674b87541e
    [repeats denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]
    Not really an answer. We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable. Hard to do when you fail to offer any.

    The question remains.

    Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 2nd time

    Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
    [repeats denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]
    Not really an answer.
    We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
    Hard to do when you fail to offer any.

    The question remains.

    Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 3rd time

    Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
    [repeats denial that a threat was made for dirt]
    Not really an answer.
    We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
    Hard to do when you fail to offer any.

    The question remains.

    Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 4th time

    Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
    [ignores question, posts tweets attacking whistleblower]
    Not really an answer.
    We are attempting to establish facts concerning what you yourself admit should be impeachable.
    Hard to do when you fail to offer any.

    The question remains.

    Ukraine is dependent on the US for military and economic support. 5th time

    Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
    Last edited by RandomGuy; 10-04-2019 at 05:35 PM. Reason: formatting, clarity, typo

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    "why the Justice Dept. later closed the case without conducting an investigation."
    ... because Tom Hagen is a corrupt Repug mother er, which was the prime, even only perquisite for the job.

    My guess is that Tom was handed to Trash by Repugs,

    since Trash probably didn't know who Tom was,

    due to Hagen's proven history of white-washing Repug Iran-Contra criminals.

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    Former Ukrainian official blasts Giuliani's sources

    Former Deputy Prosecutor General to Ukraine David Sakvarelidze tells CNN's Sam Kiley that

    two sources in Rudy Giuliani's allegations against Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden

    are "deeply corrupt."

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/10/03/former-ukraine-prosecutor-kiley-interview-vpx.cnn

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    dems continue to cry wolf and no one ing cares anymore.... hahahahahaha! i hope the dem party crashes and burns eventually.

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    investigate the investigators per par

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    dems continue to cry wolf and no one ing cares anymore.... hahahahahaha! i hope the dem party crashes and burns eventually.
    ^ not right wing

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    Impeachment Investigators Subpoena White House and Ask Pence for Do ents on Ukraine

    House Democrats sent a subpoena to the White House requesting

    a vast range of do ents about President Trump’s dealings with Ukraine and

    efforts to cover up his actions.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/04/us/politics/white-house-subpoenas-impeachment.html?auth=link-dismiss-google1tap



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    tim pool isn't rightwing and he says all the same i do. it's not all black & white you dip even though you've bought into that game as a dying progressive loon.

    there's moderate, centrists, those who lean a bit this way or that way, etc... you just happen to adopt an ideology that's cultish in nature and you believe everyone else must be the same whether left or right. that's your problem not mine.

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    And the result of all that? Womp womp.


    Just let this new investigation play out. If there's nothing there, no big deal. Why protest so much?
    Characterizing the Muller investigation results as womp womp is wildly disingenuous or just ignorant. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and call it ignorance. The fact that democrats didn’t pursue the obstruction charges the report clearly teed up for them was a political calculation and we can debate the merits of that decision. But, it’s clear you didn’t read the report. I’d ask that you read the executive summaries and replace the name Trump with Clinton and ask if you still characterize the report as a nothing burger.

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    Characterizing the Muller investigation results as womp womp is wildly disingenuous or just ignorant. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and call it ignorance. The fact that democrats didn’t pursue the obstruction charges the report clearly teed up for them was a political calculation and we can debate the merits of that decision. But, it’s clear you didn’t read the report. I’d ask that you read the executive summaries and replace the name Trump with Clinton and ask if you still characterize the report as a nothing burger.
    It was a nothingburger

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