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    Facts.

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    Should president’s from now on be able to ask foreign governments and their intelligence services to spy on political opponents in US elections?

    Yes or No?

    Because the current president told us that he did this.

    Lets write this into campaign law.

    Now, should this hold for ANY elected office, or just the president?

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    Should president’s from now on be able to ask foreign governments and their intelligence services to spy on political opponents in US elections?


    Which president are you talking about?

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    Chump is all in on Russiagate
    lw infrmatin Qhris

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    Facts.
    Qhris believes all this bull

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    Which president are you talking about?
    Lol you think Obama spied on Trump, even after Barr's hand-picked investigator said no dice.

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    Lol you think Obama spied on Trump, even after Barr's hand-picked investigator said no dice.
    who was Barr’s hand-picked investigator?

    Sending confidential human sources at the campaign is indeed spying.

    Sending undercover FBI agents at the campaign is indeed spying.

    A FISA warrant is the most intrusive form of spying on someone there is. (and this one was obtained fraudulently)

    Horowitz confirmed all of the above in his report.

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    Lol you think Obama spied on Trump, even after Barr's hand-picked investigator said no dice.
    What are you referring to?

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    What are you referring to?
    Slight mistake on my part, it was an IG investigation:

    https://ctmirror.org/2019/12/11/horo...rump-campaign/

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    Horowitz did slap the FBI for sloppy casework though.

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    Lol you think Obama spied on Trump, even after Barr's hand-picked investigator said no dice.
    Slight mistake on my part, it was an IG investigation:

    https://ctmirror.org/2019/12/11/horo...rump-campaign/
    Horowitz was sworn in as the Inspector General of the United States Department of Justice on April 16, 2012

    Let the record show that Barr was not AG in 2012

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    Which president are you talking about?
    You tell me.Ill set the facts up.You have a newly elected president of a country who is a political novice. How is he going to find out information on Biden jr? Walk up and ask him? He be directed to ask his intelligence agencies by the folks in the country who understand how to to look into Biden jr. The newly elected president awaiting needed money, from a supposed partner, is asked for a favor. Okay now.Who asked for the favor?Hillary?

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    You tell me.Ill set the facts up.You have a newly elected president of a country who is a political novice. How is he going to find out information on Biden jr? Walk up and ask him? He be directed to ask his intelligence agencies by the folks in the country who understand how to to look into Biden jr. The newly elected president awaiting needed money, from a supposed partner, is asked for a favor. Okay now.Who asked for the favor?Hillary?
    Obama gave Ukraine blankets

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    Schiff tried to get naked pics of drumpf from who he thought were Ukrainians.

    Lead impeachment manager

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    Horowitz was sworn in as the Inspector General of the United States Department of Justice on April 16, 2012

    Let the record show that Barr was not AG in 2012
    I copped the mistake, do you accept the IG's conclusions?

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    Jesus, Darrin-- you ever get tired of deflecting for your Dear Leader?

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    Schiff tried to get naked pics of drumpf from who he thought were Ukrainians.
    Provide the quote. Not a link to the audio, not a link to an article... an actual quote from the prank phone call where Adam Schiff tried to get nude photos.

    I bet you won't.

    Devin Nunes talking points

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    Provide the quote. Not a link to the audio, not a link to an article... an actual quote from the prank phone call where Adam Schiff tried to get nude photos.

    I bet you won't.

    There's nothing but the audio. You think it's fake?

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    There's nothing but the audio. You think it's fake?
    I'm saying I want you to transcribe the quote from the audio where Adam Schiff tried to get nude photos of Donald Trump.

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    Should president’s from now on be able to ask foreign governments and their intelligence services to spy on political opponents in US elections?

    Yes or No?

    Because the current president told us that he did this.

    Lets write this into campaign law.

    Now, should this hold for ANY elected office, or just the president?
    So how about anyone running for president?
    We need these new campaign laws enacted because apparently, it’s fine.
    How about a candidate for president but not the current in bent.
    Maybe ask a country to hack the in bent’s headquarters? Or maybe just hack another opponent with foreign help during the primary?

    Little help here.

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    Obama gave Ukraine blankets
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    Well, no, not really. Congress clearly never made the argument that the executive doesn't have that right. As a matter of fact, they appeared in court. That doesn't mean that the executive actually directing certain employees not to comply with subpoenas isn't obstruction of Congress.
    Which employees received subpoenas and didn’t comply?
    You're asking the wrong question. Look what was the claim (in bold) vs what you're asking/derived from it. See the difference?

    But to answer your unrelated question, Charles Kupperman was one. Mick Mulvaney was another. There's also a plethora of do ent requests from the WH, the Secretary of State, the Defense Department and the OMB which were plainly ignored.

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