trump impeachment watch thread

[Winehole23]

You pretty much have to ignore the transcript, the context and DJT's own words to conclude there was no shakedown. DJT dangled US miltary aid and a meeting in exchange for a statement from Ukrainian leadership smearing the Dem frontrunner.

[ducks]

Senators are told they will be made to work SIX days a week for six weeks for Donald Trump's impeachment trial at height of Democratic primary season

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ent-trial.html

[Chris]

[johnsmith]

goddman, you're ing stupid

Your mom didn’t think so. Before she died ya know?

[djohn2oo8]

Gets the popcorn

[boutons_deux]

"GOP aide tells me one plan discussed is for Gym Jordan and others

to repeatedly use the whistleblower’s name as one of several strategies

to blow up the hearings and

make the media report on his iden y.

Be prepared for stunts."

— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) November 13, 2019

Lawless GOP breaking Federal law to out the now-irrelevant whistleblower.

[Spurs Homer]

Senators are told they will be made to work SIX days a week for six weeks for Donald Trump's impeachment trial at height of Democratic primary season

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ent-trial.html

maybe they can relieve themselves of that burden with just one simple act;


tell Trump to....


STOP COMMITTING CRIMES!!!

[Winehole23]

NY Post mischaracterizes the procedure. The trial for removal, if there is one, will be in the US Senate. Impeachment is analogous to indictment by a grand jury.

[boutons_deux]

Nunes is example extraordinaire of the descent, degradation of the Repugs and their cult base

the tweets totally, deservedly trash Nunes

[Winehole23]

Nunes is example extraordinaire of the descent, degradation of the Repugs and their cult base

the tweets totally, deservedly trash Nunes

Sounds like a man who'd sue a fake cow on Twitter.

[boutons_deux]

Sounds like a man who'd sue a fake cow on Twitter.

What CA lacks in quan y of Reps, it triple downs on their tiness, McCarthy, Nunes, Issa

and the memorable:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Cunningham

btw, CA Repugs are moving to TX to enjoy the cheaper living in a Repug hole

[johnsmith]

What CA lacks in quan y of Reps, it triple downs on their tiness, McCarthy, Nunes, Issa

and the memorable:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Cunningham

btw, CA Repugs are moving to TX to enjoy the cheaper living in a Repug hole

You’re such a beta incel....it’s amazing that you’re still here.

[RandomGuy]

=5th time
Should Trump be impeached if he starts threatening countries for dirt on his political opponents, TSA? Simple yes or no question.

Sure [denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Well, we have a standard we can both agree on [threatening another country for dirt on a political rival is an impeachable offense]. A step forward.
Is Ukraine dependent on US security guarantees and military aid to protect itself from Russia? yes or no.

The US contributes a lot to the protection of Ukraine. [denial that a threat was made for dirt]

Another yes.
We are indeed getting somewhere. 1st time
Was this aid suspended at any time? If so, when?
You might find this link helpful:
https://www.apnews.com/94fdeaddc6b34c02b97278674b87541e

[repeats denial that denial several times that a threat was made for dirt]

[Repeats question approximately two dozen times]

[repeats denial that denial that a threat was made for dirt, and ignores question]

until finally...

[Link [from an article on Aug 28 before the whistleblower complaint came out] showing that yes this aid was held up for months after being approved, and was held up directly by Donald Trump]

So... we have "yes, Ukraine aid was held up and Trump was the one holding it up".

Now we can continue.

Why was that aid held up?

[Link you didn’t read says why aid was held up]

I did indeed read the link, I wanted to know what your position is. I will assume that your response here means you are going to attempt to stick to the thin lies given before the whistleblowers initial compliant.

The senior administration official, who asked to remain anonymous in order to discuss internal matters, said the president wants to ensure U.S. interests are being prioritized when it comes to foreign assistance, and is seeking assurances that other countries are “paying their fair share.”

We have the method of potential extortion established, now we need to get to the act, and the bribe requested for that extortion. The problem is that we now know it wasn't "US interests" that Trump was worried about, but Trumps own interests. The withholding of funds was the extortion part of Trumps abuse of his office, and the requests for investigation into the debunked Crowdstrike theory and the debunked Biden corruption story are the bribes he wanted in exchange, so that his campaign could have valuable talking points to damage a political rival.

We have established:

1. Presidents should be impeached if they threaten countries for dirt on political opponents.
   
2. Ukraine is vulnerable to threats, because they desperately need our aid, against Russia.
   
3. Ukraine aid was being held up directly by Trump.
   
4. Trump then asked for valuable, material help for his re-election campaign in the form of investigation into the debunked DNC/Crowdstrike conspiracy theory and Biden family.
   

Extortion and Bribery, which, by your own given admission should be impeachable.

[RandomGuy]

You’re such a beta incel....it’s amazing that you’re still here.

People ding boutons a lot, but he doesn't run away from his posted material.

The conservatives here love to bash him, but so many like DMC and DarrinS run away the instant their posts are challenged and hide behind personal attacks.

Say what you want about boutons, but he is not as lazy as some of the board conservatives.

[RandomGuy]

Sounds like a man who'd sue a fake cow on Twitter.

Nunes, Jordon, Goetz.

This is the kind of incompetent ass-clownery that is in charge of Trumps "defense". Trump himself is already undercutting some of their defense.

[boutons_deux]

You’re such a beta incel....it’s amazing that you’re still here.

eat my , mother er

[Winehole23]

lol

[Winehole23]

Surprised the president isn't rage-tweeting. Taylor's testimony is really bad for him.

[Winehole23]

[boutons_deux]

Surprised the president isn't rage-tweeting. Taylor's testimony is really bad for him.

Trash is buddying today with fellow autocrat Erdogan.

Erdogan is forcibly repatriating ISIS fighters to Western European countries as revenge for them punishing Erdogan.

[ChumpDumper]

[djohn2oo8]

Sondland

[djohn2oo8]

[ChumpDumper]

This is such a clear cut case of bribery and extortion Trumpistas are going to talk about everything but the facts of the case.

[ChumpDumper]

Thank goodness real attorneys are out here doing extended questioning.