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    The hold was lifted on September 11th, before the end of the fiscal year.

    You were the one that brought up crimes that Trump would be liable for if he loses in November not me. I am still waiting for you to explain how a GAO opinion is something Trump will be held criminally liable for once he's out of office. After you try and figure that one out let me know why Obama wasn't held criminally liable for GAO opinions when he was out of office.
    We're talking past each other. I don't think the ICA violation is a criminal matter, it's more properly one for impeachment.

    As for post-presidency legal hazard, Trump is an unindicted co-comspirator in the scheme Cohen went to prison for, as well as (possibly) obstruction of justice in the Mueller probe.Arguably, that obstruction could be part of impeachment too, not sure the House is done, nothing prevents them from sending supplemental material.

    I honestly don't know who all has criminal investigations going on against Trump, should be easily checkable if you're interested, I don't keep a scoreboard.

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    Yeah, Obama prob shouldn't have done that. What's this got to do with ya boy tho?

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    Totally unsurprising Obama resorted to shenanigans, that was impeachable too had the GOP majority cared to.

    Apparently it didn't care to.

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    Totally unsurprising Obama resorted to shenanigans, that was impeachable too had the GOP majority cared to.

    Apparently it didn't care to.
    Agreed on both.

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    Yeah, Obama prob shouldn't have done that. What's this got to do with ya boy tho?
    I thought winehole was saying Trump would be held criminally liable for a GAO opinion...he just cleared that up.

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    We're talking past each other. I don't think the ICA violation is a criminal matter, it's more properly one for impeachment.

    As for post-presidency legal hazard, Trump is an unindicted co-comspirator in the scheme Cohen went to prison for, as well as (possibly) obstruction of justice in the Mueller probe.Arguably, that obstruction could be part of impeachment too, not sure the House is done, nothing prevents them from sending supplemental material.

    I honestly don't know who all has criminal investigations going on against Trump, should be easily checkable if you're interested, I don't keep a scoreboard.
    Please explain how Trump will be held criminally liable after he’s out of office for Cohen being charged with one count of making an excessive campaign contribution at the request of a candidate (Trump) for the "principal purpose of influencing [the] election"

    And please tell me that’s not why you think Cohen is serving time

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    Totally unsurprising Obama resorted to shenanigans, that was impeachable too had the GOP majority cared to.

    Apparently it didn't care to.
    Would it be totally surprising if I found neither you nor RandomGuy calling for Obama’s impeachment after either violation?

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    Please explain how Trump will be held criminally liable after he’s out of office for Cohen being charged with one count of making an excessive campaign contribution at the request of a candidate (Trump) for the "principal purpose of influencing [the] election"

    And please tell me that’s not why you think Cohen is serving time
    Pass, not germane to the thread.

    There are so many crooked people around Trump and so many charges laid it can be hard to keep straight -- what did Cohen go to prison for? Happy to accept correction if I goofed.

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    Tuh-heeeeee!!

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    Would it be totally surprising if I found neither you nor RandomGuy calling for Obama’s impeachment after either violation?
    I wasn't aware of it, I don't believe you brought it up at the time either.

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    Please explain how Trump will be held criminally liable after he’s out of office for Cohen being charged with one count of making an excessive campaign contribution at the request of a candidate (Trump) for the "principal purpose of influencing [the] election"

    And please tell me that’s not why you think Cohen is serving time
    because it is a Felony

    individual 1 directed the Felony
    but could not be charged (yet) because of the OLC memo

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    Tuh-heeeeee!!
    REEEEEEEEEE

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    Pass, not germane to the thread.

    There are so many crooked people around Trump and so many charges laid it can be hard to keep straight -- what did Cohen go to prison for? Happy to accept correction if I goofed.
    You brought Trump being criminally liable after office to this thread and now you want to pass and say it's not germane?

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    You brought Trump being criminally liable after office to this thread and now you want to pass and say it's not germane?
    I answered your question.

    If I've goofed about Cohen, happy to receive correction.

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    Would it be totally surprising if I found neither you nor RandomGuy calling for Obama’s impeachment after either violation?
    Neither would seem like a high crime.

    Being dishonest, you leave out the why, of course.

    The why is because child-raping Trump was using funds to extort a bribe from a foreign country.

    Was Obama trying to extort a bribe for his re-election campaign from a foreign country using taxpayer money, like your child-raping hero, Trump? Yes or no will do.
    Last edited by RandomGuy; 01-16-2020 at 04:45 PM. Reason: grammarly

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    Obstruction of justice is a real ass crime too, btw.

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    Kellyanne Conway claims she doesn’t know Lev Parnas —

    but his lawyer has a photo showing otherwise





    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/kel...8460&list_id=1

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    #LevRemembers

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    Wombat Hair threatens fellow Republicans if they don't go along with impeachment trial cover-up



    If the Senate votes to subpoena relevant witnesses like former national security adviser John Bolton who actually, you know, witnessed what Trump was doing, Paul warns, he’ll call wildly irrelevant witnesses like Hunter Biden or vulnerable ones like the original whistleblower, to put Republicans facing reelection in a tough spot.

    “If you vote against Hunter Biden, you’re voting to lose your election, basically. Seriously.

    That’s what it is,” Paul told Politico.

    “If you don’t want to vote and you think you’re going to have to vote against Hunter Biden,

    you should just vote against witnesses, period.”


    ”My first preference would be to be done with it as soon as possible and not to have any witnesses,” Paul said—

    in other words, ignore the evidence and just do the partisan thing.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...tail=emaildkre


    Last edited by boutons_deux; 01-16-2020 at 05:37 PM.

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    1) No
    2) No


    1) there was a formal process that had already screened ukraine and Congress approved the money AFTER the ukraine had cleared ALL its hurdles and the funds were officially approved.


    2) Biden followed official Govt policy and your premise is bull . Biden pushed for a prosecutor who followed the law - got rid of the corrupt one. Your cult leader WANTS the corrupt people there because then they will allow corruption like USA bribery & extortion from the Trump rogue criminals.
    How clueless can you be?

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    Wombat Hair threatens fellow Republicans if they don't go along with impeachment trial cover-up



    If the Senate votes to subpoena relevant witnesses like former national security adviser John Bolton who actually, you know, witnessed what Trump was doing, Paul warns, he’ll call wildly irrelevant witnesses like Hunter Biden or vulnerable ones like the original whistleblower, to put Republicans facing reelection in a tough spot.

    “If you vote against Hunter Biden, you’re voting to lose your election, basically. Seriously.

    That’s what it is,” Paul told Politico.

    “If you don’t want to vote and you think you’re going to have to vote against Hunter Biden,

    you should just vote against witnesses, period.”


    ”My first preference would be to be done with it as soon as possible and not to have any witnesses,” Paul said—

    in other words, ignore the evidence and just do the partisan thing.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...tail=emaildkre


    As it should be, can we all just get back to in work, please?

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    D'Souza

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    It really hurts DJT's feelings, though. He'll never get over it.

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    D'Souza
    That guy is forever a convicted felon.

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