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    Well that's too bad for you because the cons ution and the courts do count it among religions.
    I said personally. I don't know that it cons utionally isn't a religion. It's murky imo.

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    I said personally. I don't know that it cons utionally isn't a religion. It's murky imo.
    Personally? OK, I guess you can believe whatever you want personally, but do you know if Mosques are taxed?

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    Personally? OK, I guess you can believe whatever you want personally, but do you know if Mosques are taxed?
    I know that those mosques would tax me or kill me if they had their way.

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    I know that those mosques would tax me or kill me if they had their way.
    They're tax-exempt.

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    They're tax-exempt.
    Does that bother you?

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    I consider Islam to be a political persuasion of world domination. I personally don't count it among religions.
    That's what I thought. Therein lies the conundrum. Feelings don't enter the picture when it comes to Cons utional protections, and Islam is a religion in every sense of the word (even if you or I disagree with some or all of it's teaching, ethics, morals, etc).

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    Does that bother you?
    Not really, but it seems like it would bother you given what you just wrote.

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    I said personally. I don't know that it cons utionally isn't a religion. It's murky imo.
    Murky in what way?

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    Murky in what way?
    Murky in that he has essentially no real knowledge on the subject at hand. Of course Islam is recognized as a religion in the U.S. (including for tax purposes). It has like 2 billion followers world wide.

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    Charitable donations should never be taxed.
    gullible idiot

    You’re exactly the mark these televangelist like Joel ing Osteen love to over with the charitable line.

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    derp getting on daily

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    I'm not sure Spurtacular even goes or has ever been to church but he knows that the "religious right" is on the red team, so he's all-in on religion as a result.
    bingo, id bet he doesn’t go to church at all, he’s just been programmed to be pro-religion in arguments like this.

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    Are pastors' incomes taxed? I don't have an issue with exempting a religious ins ution but all individual salaries should be taxed the same as any other job.

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    The churches that actually do so much charitable work is very important since government has taken its foot off the gas. When you actually see busloads of people on our coastline cleaning up and helping rebuild it’s reassuring. And I really don’t give a crap if boots thinks it’s all about proselytizing, people in need get real help.

    Then I see Joel Osteen in Houston... When the little Church down the street and their parishioners actually housing families until they get to relatives. It’s easy to single guys like Joel out. Red team would do themselves a favor by staying away from his ilk. When churches give political lectures, it is very sad.

    Im wary because I have seen how much good churches can do. Some of the most likable, hardworking, unassuming apolitical, people I have met working on Habitat for Humanity Housing are from churches as well.

    If you do volunteer work, it makes this question very tough. This charity work,in which people actually see and work with people face to face, is also important for societies that have turned more isolated in actual human contact. Churches organize this social contact most often. Better than lock her up rally’s.

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    I said personally. I don't know that it cons utionally isn't a religion. It's murky imo.
    Jeez you're re ed. You really don't belong in this forum until you at least catch up with the rest of 9th grade. Then after that maybe sit out discussions and just ask questions to your superiors.

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    If a pastor or clergy gets an income, it should be taxed.
    They are taxed. In addition to income tax on salary from the church they also have to pay self employment tax because by law churches cannot withhold FICA and Medicare taxes.

    https://www.sapling.com/5986202/tax-...ctions-pastors

    I can understand charities being tax exempt, but not churches.
    Churches are automatically considered 501c3 charities. They have to adhere to the 501c3 requirements.

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    They are taxed. In addition to income tax on salary from the church they also have to pay self employment tax because by law churches cannot withhold FICA and Medicare taxes.

    https://www.sapling.com/5986202/tax-...ctions-pastors



    Churches are automatically considered 501c3 charities. They have to adhere to the 501c3 requirements.
    Why is a church "automatically" considered a charity?

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    Jeez you're re ed. You really don't belong in this forum until you at least catch up with the rest of 9th grade. Then after that maybe sit out discussions and just ask questions to your superiors.
    What about ninth grade, cuck. Tell us.

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    Murky in what way?
    Murky in that it's an active philosophy of governmental overthrow and oppression masking itself as religion.

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    Not really, but it seems like it would bother you given what you just wrote.
    I'm not a fan of the government's effective material support of anti-American forces. Sure. Are you happy about it?

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    What about ninth grade, cuck. Tell us.
    Finish it, re .

    Lol "us"

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    Finish it, re .

    Lol "us"
    I'm the one with a cuck coalition

    Stop with your cuck triggers and tell us all about ninth grade.

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    Murky in that it's an active philosophy of governmental overthrow and oppression masking itself as religion.
    This is re ed. I don't know why guys like ElNono or DMX7 are taking the time to explain this simple concept to you, but you should thank them for the lesson.

    Myself, i don't have the patience to catch ridiculous trolling re s like you up to high school level social studies.

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    Are pastors' incomes taxed? I don't have an issue with exempting a religious ins ution but all individual salaries should be taxed the same as any other job.
    The free housing they get isn’t taxed when free housing for people in any other occupation is taxed as income.

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    This is re ed. I don't know why guys like ElNono or DMX7 are taking the time to explain this simple concept to you, but you should thank them for the lesson.

    Myself, i don't have the patience to catch ridiculous trolling re s like you up to high school level social studies.
    Cuck ranting.

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