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    truf.

    Shaq, during that run, was probably the most dominant player in modern NBA history. Kobe simply was never as dominant at any point in his career. He happened to be about as good as a VC, McGrady or Iverson but always did his best when paired with the best Cs in the league. The three I mentioned never had that kind of support.

    It is what it is- Rapey is a beneficiary of good luck and cir stances. He's fortunate to be held in the regard he's held in.
    How come Bron didn't make it out of the East with Shaq? He better than the 3 players you listed. Yet he rang 3 times with Kobe. Go figure.

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    And funny you do Lebron and Kobe comparisons but don't bring up how they did against each other.

    Player G W L GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    LeBron James 22 16 6 22 40.3 10.3 22.0 .469 1.4 4.2 .323 6.2 8.9 .694 1.7 5.7 7.4 7.3 1.9 0.7 3.4 2.4 28.2
    Kobe Bryant 22 6 16 22 36.9 8.7 20.4 .428 1.4 4.1 .341 5.8 6.8 .847 0.8 4.2 5.0 5.2 1.1 0.2 3.2 2.3 24.

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    And funny you do Lebron and Kobe comparisons but don't bring up how they did against each other.

    Player G W L GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    LeBron James 22 16 6 22 40.3 10.3 22.0 .469 1.4 4.2 .323 6.2 8.9 .694 1.7 5.7 7.4 7.3 1.9 0.7 3.4 2.4 28.2
    Kobe Bryant 22 6 16 22 36.9 8.7 20.4 .428 1.4 4.1 .341 5.8 6.8 .847 0.8 4.2 5.0 5.2 1.1 0.2 3.2 2.3 24.
    Regular season? Even Harden is dope in the regular season.

    Bron didn't do his part in meeting Kobe in the Finals in

    2008
    2009
    2010

    I'm sure Bron would have beat him all 3 times, right?

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    Imagine if Dad Killer had Shaq in the center what his numbers would've been.

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    How come Bron didn't make it out of the East with Shaq? He better than the 3 players you listed. Yet he rang 3 times with Kobe. Go figure.
    You're comparing prime Shaq to fat geriatric Shaq?

    Also, Kobe was never with Shaq. Shaq was the alpha, son. Kobe was with him.

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    I'm sure Bron would have beat him all 3 times, right?
    Bron would've outplayed Kobe all three times, but you can never count out Pau's Lakers.

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    Bird > Kobe in what stratosphere? FH
    Son come on now

    Better all around player, made his teammates better unlike Kobe, more clutch than Kobe, didnít copy another player

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    Regular season? Even Harden is dope in the regular season.

    Bron didn't do his part in meeting Kobe in the Finals in

    2008
    2009
    2010

    I'm sure Bron would have beat him all 3 times, right?
    Lebron probably wins in 2008 but loses in 2009 and 2010.

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    Imagine if Dad Killer had Shaq in the center what his numbers would've been.
    So now we blaming Kobe for having the GOAT GM?

    You're comparing prime Shaq to fat geriatric Shaq?

    Also, Kobe was never with Shaq. Shaq was the alpha, son. Kobe was with him.
    Then explain how Kobe repeated without Shaq and 3peated without Pau.

    Bron would've outplayed Kobe all three times, but you can never count out Pau's Lakers.

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    Lebron probably wins in 2008 but loses in 2009 and 2010.
    LBJ loss to the Celtics in 2008 - 2010. That's why he went to South Beach to team up with the best of 2003 draft class tbh.

    Kobe loss to the team that beat him in 2008 then beat both teams that beat him 2009-2010 (B2B without Shaq; repeated as champ - when Dungcan never did ).

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    Son come on now

    Better all around player, made his teammates better unlike Kobe, more clutch than Kobe, didnít copy another player
    He's a better rebounder and passer (but remember, Kobe was the defacto PG to the tune of 5 rangs). Kobe is a better scorer and defender. Plus Kobe 3peated and repeated. Burd never even repeated. Him and Jim got something in common

    Kobe 5
    Burd 3


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    I can't co-sign this until Bron is no longer a Laker

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    Then explain how Kobe repeated without Shaq and 3peated without Pau.
    Yea, Scottie Pippen ringed six times supporting an Alpha.

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    Yea, Scottie Pippen ringed six times supporting an Alpha.
    Yep. And that Alpha ain't never did without Scottie.

    See how that works?

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    Yep. And that Alpha ain't never did without Scottie.

    See how that works?
    I do. I can't recall a player that won a championship without a significant supporting cast. Kobe was obviously a key player in those supporting casts.

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    He's a better rebounder and passer (but remember, Kobe was the defacto PG to the tune of 5 rangs). Kobe is a better scorer and defender. Plus Kobe 3peated and repeated. Burd never even repeated. Him and Jim got something in common

    Kobe 5
    Burd 3

    Kobe is not really a great defender tb
    Better scorer ? sure given he took like 500 shots per game. If Bird wanted to he would have averaged 35 ppg without breaking a sweat but he wasnít a ballhog

    Also Bird won his 3 rings as the Alpha tbh
    Bird never repeated because the Celtics didnít have a bench, the East was stacked and the Lakers were a mega stacked team that was rested come Finals time because the WC was so

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    I do. I can't recall a player that won a championship without a significant supporting cast. Kobe was obviously a key player in those supporting casts.
    Like this one in 2009


    Let you farmers tell it, Baby Drew put up 25/15 set year.

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    Kobe is not really a great defender tb
    Better scorer ? sure given he took like 500 shots per game. If Bird wanted to he would have averaged 35 ppg without breaking a sweat but he wasnít a ballhog

    Also Bird won his 3 rings as the Alpha tbh
    Bird never repeated because the Celtics didnít have a bench, the East was stacked and the Lakers were a mega stacked team that was rested come Finals time because the WC was so
    at the bolded

    Burd would've had two if Ralph Sampson luck ass shot didn't drop. Lakers would have 4peated 86-89. The Lakers were stacked.

    But don't give me that Celtics didn't have a bench either son. Them ers won 67 games that year. You don't do that without a bench

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    The fact this thread got this poppin means Kobe has hurt a lot of feelings lol

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    The fact this thread got this poppin means Kobe has hurt a lot of feelings lol

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    at the bolded

    Burd would've had two if Ralph Sampson luck ass shot didn't drop. Lakers would have 4peated 86-89. The Lakers were stacked.

    But don't give me that Celtics didn't have a bench either son. Them ers won 67 games that year. You don't do that without a bench
    Son you were lucky Stern disbanded the 86 Rockets and murdered Bias tbh

    Oh and Stern also gave you game 6 vs Detroit in 88

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    Kobe raped.

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    Arguing against re ed crap never gets old.
    I knew you'd like this thread. Enjoy

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