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    Are you guys sure Lyles is no good, I understand from ST that Spurs will only be better if we trade our players for lottery pick. Lyles was a lottery pick, he cannot be bad.
    Not complete trash, but if you start him he's by far the worst starting PF in the NBA. I like him as a bench piece which would also make his job easier, but we got Rudy Gay there

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    I like Liles. I think he's our best option in the starting PF. It doesn't mean he needs to play 20-25 minutes but he can do it depending on the opponent.

    Liles provides spacing and not only because he shots threes but because he can put the ball on the ground and finish or pass decently. There is zero problem if he is not getting the ball because the starters are making all the shots, he keeps playing defense and rebounding. At the same time, he's shooting more and more confidently when needed. He runs the court well and finishes correctly in fast break. Usually gets some offensive rebounds, facilitating good second options for the team.

    Defensively, he does his job. He can't stop an all-star one on one, but he has good concentration, positioning and fundamentals so he's not a liability like Forbes. He's not too athletic but he's not too small or too slow and he has good basketball IQ, which balances the overall. He works well under the boards, rebounding or boxing out.

    Trey Liles probably isn't a starter caliber player in the NBA but he's a serviceable player that fills well the starting PF in our team. The starting line up needs to get rid of Forbes and all the stats will get better. Every player sharing the court with Forbes hurts his numbers. I don't see any problem on Liles playing 15 minutes, 6-8 at the starting the 1st and the 3rd and even some 4th minutes if the game is going well for him.

    I would rather trade/sell Gay than him, the value/salary is much better in Liles, who could fit very well in the second unit for a much lower price. Thinking on addind a true starting PF to this team? You need to look at Rudy's salary. Trey Liles is doing very well on his first season in San Antonio. For a bag of peanuts.

    Samanic? I love him but he needs time. Metu? Might be an option but not ready to start at all yet. I hope he has an opportunity during the season beacuase of injuries/rest. We shall see then.

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    If Saminic or Metu were starting and playing like Lyles, we would call them a bust and say they need to be in the G-league

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    Sure lets give this dope ten thousand more minutes to make our minds..

    when this guy averages 10 pts a game will be the first time since high school he's done it in organized basketball
    not college
    not in Utah
    not Denver
    and For in sure Not in San Antonio



    ing "Coach X"

    LOL

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    lmao

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    Lyles as a shooter is behind Bryn "Chuckup" (or is that "Upchuck?") Forbes, DeRozan, Aldridge, and Murray, in order of priority. He's a very distant fifth option. It's surprising Lyles ever gets a chance to shoot. Considering the situation, anybody who whines about Lyles not scoring very much is, well, let's just say, not very bright.

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    Tbh Lyles has exceeded expectations. People keeps comparing him to a 15 mil signing. Yet even then Lyles showed great understanding of Spurs plays from day 1. He is still very young and has plenty of upward potentials if properly guided, especially with Timmy in the staff. Very mobile, who can shoot, pass, great bball iq. A poor Diaw but has potential to be more physical. Can compliment well with Poeltl skills.

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    Tbh Lyles has exceeded expectations. People keeps comparing him to a 15 mil signing. Yet even then Lyles showed great understanding of Spurs plays from day 1. He is still very young and has plenty of upward potentials if properly guided, especially with Timmy in the staff. Very mobile, who can shoot, pass, great bball iq. A poor Diaw but has potential to be more physical. Can compliment well with Poeltl skills.
    U can't be serious...most of the time u don't even know he is on the court...he is so low impact

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    Tbh Lyles has exceeded expectations. People keeps comparing him to a 15 mil signing. Yet even then Lyles showed great understanding of Spurs plays from day 1. He is still very young and has plenty of upward potentials if properly guided, especially with Timmy in the staff. Very mobile, who can shoot, pass, great bball iq. A poor Diaw but has potential to be more physical. Can compliment well with Poeltl skills.
    Yes Lyles is versatile, but where exactly is he elite? Nowhere and that's the point. He can do a lot of things decently, but he ain't elite at anything. Rebounding might be his best skill.

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    Yeah I've seen enough. This dude is not a starter or even a backup. He should be playing the Austin Daye role. And the Spurs start him . His rebounding has been nice. He isn't terrible or anything. He is just nowhere near a starting caliber player and isn't really that good at anything it seems like. Just decent at a few things

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    Lyle's is not starter material. 2nd unit at best, and that is being generous. He could really use time in the g league to build up consistency but he will never accept it. He does everything okay and nothing stands out except his rebounding.

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    Lyles is a starter who doesn’t demand the ball, a role player. With Demar, Aldridge, Murray, Bryn who all demand the ball, he is the least who demand touches, so what do people expect? The guy fills the role. Sure I like him to be more aggressive especially on the defensive end like Poeltl. But unlike Poeltl, he can shoot outside shots, drives the ball, create and pass. IF he plays to his potentials, the guy could be a top starter in the league with his skill set and bball IQ. It’s his 1st year and already knows the system. He seems to get along with his peers and enjoy being here. He has bought in to Pop. And again with the luxury of Timmy to guide him, I just know he’ll keep improving.

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    I dont know why people even argue about Lyles as if he is the source of our problems. Him starting or playing is the least of our issues.

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    I dont know why people even argue about Lyles as if he is the source of our problems. Him starting or playing is the least of our issues.
    I Agree. i dont like that he starts in front of Poeltl, but at least he is contributing something. Forbes is the biggest problem since Belinelli got benched.

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    I Agree. i dont like that he starts in front of Poeltl, but at least he is contributing something. Forbes is the biggest problem since Belinelli got benched.
    Yeah. We are not winning because of Lyles but we are also not losing because of Lyles.

    Calling him a scrub is pointless and just shows posters being hateful for the sake of being hateful.

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    19 minutes, 0 points against the HAWKS. B-b-b-but he's a solid starter

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    19 minutes, 0 points against the HAWKS. B-b-b-but he's a solid starter

    Oh, you know better than that. You know perfectly well that Forbes always has the green light, then it's DDR and LMA, and then there's Murray who's working on his shooting. Expecting Lyles to score very much, if at all, is foolish, with the way things are in Pop's lineup.

    Lyles only took 3 shots, while Forbes, our supposed shooting specialist, went 2 for 9, and it's Lyles you're whining about? C'mon now.

    Speaking of the 19 minutes, Lyles had twice as many rebounds as Poeltl in one less minute. Poeltl played 20. Do you have anything to say about that?

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    i never thought this guy would amount to anything. same with forbes.

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    No one would have before, but he's kicking ass, and I'll bet 20+ teams would start him NOW. He's the prototypical modern day stretch 4.

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    No one would have before, but he's kicking ass, and I'll bet 20+ teams would start him NOW. He's the prototypical modern day stretch 4.
    Can you imagine being the one that typed that and also being serious? How embarrassing.

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    The guy couldn’t even get on the court with Denver and is a starter here... This is probably the most egregious coaching error from Pop. Worse then starting forbes, worse then playing Beil over walker and those are two terrible decisions.

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    Oh, you know better than that. You know perfectly well that Forbes always has the green light, then it's DDR and LMA, and then there's Murray who's working on his shooting. Expecting Lyles to score very much, if at all, is foolish, with the way things are in Pop's lineup.

    Lyles only took 3 shots, while Forbes, our supposed shooting specialist, went 2 for 9, and it's Lyles you're whining about? C'mon now.

    Speaking of the 19 minutes, Lyles had twice as many rebounds as Poeltl in one less minute. Poeltl played 20. Do you have anything to say about that?
    he got 3 shots cause he gave up a couple of lay ups and instead passed the ball out to the 3-point line. B-b-b-but his Basketball IQ

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    he got 3 shots cause he gave up a couple of lay ups and instead passed the ball out to the 3-point line. B-b-b-but his Basketball IQ
    What? Guy, look at the lineup.

    And you have nothing at all to say about him getting twice the rebounds of Poeltl in less time?

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    This DUDE is our STARTING Power Forward....... He ain't even better than Bonner.....

    Utah was only down 44 in that game and working hard...it's the effort that matters, and Lyles is the kind of team player that scores "participation" points in Pop's book. And don't knock Bonner...he's probably going to have his jersey retired at the AT&T right next to Forbes' some day.

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    I am still unsure how the did he as a new player surpass Chimeze Metu? Everything I see of Metu, he should be starting over Lyles. I believe our defense would improve just with the rim protection.

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