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    No, you can’t see how it sucks for me because I don’t feel that way at all.
    I can totally see how it sucks for you, considering you're basically in denial of what Horowitz actually concluded.

    You continue to push for conclusions that the IG didn't make. Get over it, it didn't work out. There's another one million conspiracies out there to cling your wagon to.

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    TSA sure quiet about Bruce Ohr.
    I know how to make you quiet real quick. Where’s my 2 grand you welshing got?

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    Explain how intentionally altering and falsifying a do ent submitted to the FISC for a warrant renewal is just an error and not intentional?
    Horowitz might have to explain it. That was his conclusion, not mine. You're arguing with Horowitz now.

    I'll have to take your word, for over a year and a half, that this is a competent guy, and he reviewed the evidence, so he must know what he said.

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    I can see a few scenarios where that could happen unintentionally, but it would sound like excuses, so I won't go there. However, reading the bulk of the report, it doesn't appear to me that was singled out as something with malice intent. More like another link in the chain of errors and mistakes with procedure that were delineated on the report.
    Horowitz referred him to Durham for a criminal investigation.

    unintentionally altering and falsifying do ents. I need to test this theory out.

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    But were they accurate?
    You weren't.

    Neither was Techno Fog.

    It's astounding how wrong you were.

    Nice to know they got good Intel from that Page warrant.

    Wouldn't have been renewed otherwise.

    You know that and will never admit it.


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    I know how to make you quiet real quick. Where’s my 2 grand you welshing got?
    Since you haven’t been proven right, I’d say it’s right next to the political bias at the FBI.

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    Horowitz referred him to Durham for a criminal investigation.

    unintentionally altering and falsifying do ents. I need to test this theory out.
    What do ent was falsified according to the IG? Quote?

    Any quotes on the criminal referral too? (not kidding, I don't see anything on the report)

    As far as alterations, laugh all you want, but this stuff happens all the time in things like transcripts or translations of do ents. I'm not claiming that's what happened here, but you wanted examples, those are some examples.

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    Since you haven’t been proven right, I’d say it’s right next to the political bias at the FBI.
    Why did you bail on the ST fantasy league the day after you said you were in?

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    Why did you bail on the ST fantasy league the day after you said you were in?
    Had to prep myself to come see the devastating IG report that you promised

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    I’m still waiting

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    What do ent was falsified according to the IG? Quote?

    Any quotes on the criminal referral too? (not kidding, I don't see anything on the report)

    As far as alterations, laugh all you want, but this stuff happens all the time in things like transcripts or translations of do ents. I'm not claiming that's what happened here, but you wanted examples, those are some examples.
    I’m not going to dig for the actual quote from the report. It’s already been posted here and is the same thing SR21 is talking about.

    FBI reaches out to CIA for info on Page next renewal. CIA emailed Page was a vetted CIA source for years. FBI took that email and altered to say Page was not a CIA source.

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    Had to prep myself to come see the devastating IG report that you promised
    you are so ing broke and pathetic

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    I’m not going to dig for the actual quote from the report. It’s already been posted here and is the same thing SR21 is talking about.

    FBI reaches out to CIA for info on Page next renewal. CIA emailed Page was a vetted CIA source for years. FBI took that email and altered to say Page was not a CIA source.
    That's an alteration, not a falsification (actual word used on the report is alteration). Page 255 of the report.

    And this is what you call the 'criminal referral':

    Consistent with the Inspector General Act of 1978, following the OIG's discovery that the OGC Attorney had altered the email that he sent to SSA 2, who thereafter relied on it to swear out the final FISA application, the OIG promptly informed the Attorney General and the FBI Director, and provided them with the relevant information about the OGC Attorney's actions.

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    you are so ing broke and pathetic
    You’re the one who bet on every conspiracy theory In the Russia probe. Like some sort of addict.

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    That's an alteration, not a falsification (actual word used on the report is alteration). Page 255 of the report.

    And this is what you call the 'criminal referral':

    Consistent with the Inspector General Act of 1978, following the OIG's discovery that the OGC Attorney had altered the email that he sent to SSA 2, who thereafter relied on it to swear out the final FISA application, the OIG promptly informed the Attorney General and the FBI Director, and provided them with the relevant information about the OGC Attorney's actions.
    are you just trolling tonight?

    Did altering the email make the email presented false? Yes or no.

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    You’re the one who bet on every conspiracy theory In the Russia probe. Like some sort of addict.
    You were the only one stupid enough to accept one for 2 grand and then lose

    Broke ass welshing got

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    You were the only one stupid enough to accept one for 2 grand and then lose

    Broke ass welshing got
    Can you prove I lost? Since last we heard, Mueller’s grand jury never stopped

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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pol...d-jury-1238861

    because I told your dumbass Mueller handed off cases

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    Active Mueller case

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    are you just trolling tonight?

    Did altering the email make the email presented false? Yes or no.
    yeah... falsification of a do ent can also be done through alteration. doesn't mean you have to conjure it up from scratch

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    are you just trolling tonight?

    Did altering the email make the email presented false? Yes or no.
    Not necessarily. There's no such claim on the report, at least. That's why these things are referred to the DOJ for further investigation.

    The report does indicate that the alteration was an addition (3 words), with no omission of the original text.

    There's even quotes of the email and what was altered on the report.

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    yeah... falsification of a do ent can also be done through alteration. doesn't mean you have to conjure it up from scratch
    Yes, but you can do alteration without falsification (ie: annotating a do ent).

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    Yes, but you can do alteration without falsification (ie: annotating a do ent).
    that's not what is claimed to have happened by horowitz though

    the substantive meaning of the email was changed

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    that's not what is claimed to have happened by horowitz though

    the substantive meaning of the email was changed
    Oh yeah, I’m not saying it was an annotation. Did you actually see what was the addition?

    The reason I think it’ll be hard for Horowitz to argue it was made with malice intent is that they left [digraph] in there. If somebody would risk their necks to actually falsify a do ent, might as well go all the way, but they didnt

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    What I found particularly disturbing on that section, is how 'SSA 2' is apparently clueless about the language. But stuff like that is apparently interspersed throughout the report.

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