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    This isnít a revelation. Horowitz found the wrongdoing i the applications over a month ago. Now the FBI is acknowledging the issues.

    Still doesnt show that the investigation was a ďwitch huntĒ or a deep state conspiracy. Doesnít address the adequate predicate to launch the investigation.

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    So without the Carter Page FISA warrant, Trump doesn't get investigated at all with the "collusion" thing, correct? Does this mean Trump et al can claim the FBI was illegally spying on GOP candidate to assist the democratic nominee? This rabbit hole got deeper if so. The Clintons have some serious tentacles.
    Nah, the investigation was already open before the Page warrants. OIG noted over a month ago that the fisa applications were flawed. Also didnít find any ďspyingĒ for political purposes, or political bias in the handling of the investigation.

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    This isnít a revelation. Horowitz found the wrongdoing i the applications over a month ago. Now the FBI is acknowledging the issues.

    Still doesnt show that the investigation was a ďwitch huntĒ or a deep state conspiracy. Doesnít address the adequate predicate to launch the investigation.
    For ís sake SR just shut the up, pull the stick out of your ass, and point and laugh at djohn.

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    For ís sake SR just shut the up, pull the stick out of your ass, and point and laugh at djohn.
    But we knew djohn was wrong in December after the report was released. We didnít learn anything new from this story except that the fbi is agreeing with the IGís findings. I didnít have any reason to doubt his findings in December when the report came out, so the fbi agreeing with the report isnít really giving us new information

    and even that isnít news because Chris Wray said as much when the report came out.

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    Nah, the investigation was already open before the Page warrants. OIG noted over a month ago that the fisa applications were flawed. Also didn’t find any “spying” for political purposes, or political bias in the handling of the investigation.
    “spying” for political purposes is and always has been a straw man. Horowitz highlighted plenty of spying on members of the campaign. And Trump sure as can claim the FBI was illegally spying on member of his campaign.

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    “spying” for political purposes is and always has been a straw man. Horowitz highlighted plenty of spying on members of the campaign. And Trump sure as can claim the FBI was illegally spying on member of his campaign.
    calling it a strawman when it’s literally in the post i was responding to

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    Really these are TSAs priorities? To log in at midnight to laugh at some random dude online?

    I bet he got out of bed and everything just so he can post the same tweet 20 times over and over again. Someone got bullied as a child.

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    calling it a strawman when itís literally in the post i was responding to
    I take it back with DMCís quote for context. I missed it and assumed you were using the political purposes designation to say there wasnít any spying at all as so many here routinely do like Winehole23. I believe you were the first in this thread to actually post all of the spying Horowitz detailed in his report.
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    Really these are TSAs priorities? To log in at midnight to laugh at some random dude online?

    I bet he got out of bed and everything just so he can post the same tweet 20 times over and over again. Someone got bullied as a child.
    I’m in California sitting on my couch, it’s 11:15 PM. Isn’t it 2:15 AM where you are right now and your trying to laugh at some random dude online?

    You really need to stop and think for five seconds before hitting reply and ask yourself each time, am I going to on myself again.

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    I’m in California sitting on my couch, it’s 11:15 PM. Isn’t it 2:15 AM where you are right now and your trying to laugh at some random dude online?

    You really need to stop and think for five seconds before hitting reply and ask yourself each time, am I going to on myself again.
    Hey it’s 2:20am where i live ...

    but my work hours are PST and i sleep accordingly

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    I take it back with DMC’s quote for context. I missed it and assumed you were using the political purposes designation to say there wasn’t any spying at all as so many here routinely do like Winehole23. I believe you were the first in this thread to actually post all of the spying Horowitz detailed in his report.
    We’ve had this convo before too though. Trump himself claimed they spied for political purposes.

    We don’t typically call law enforcement surveillance “spying” so even calling it that implies some improper motive or purpose

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    Hey it’s 2:20am where i live ...

    but my work hours are PST and i sleep accordingly
    You are obviously able to stay up late and not your own bed

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    We’ve had this convo before too though. Trump himself claimed they spied for political purposes.

    We don’t typically call law enforcement surveillance “spying” so even calling it that implies some improper motive or purpose
    bro....DOJ just said 2 of the 4 applications were unlawful, you can call it spying.

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    bro....DOJ just said 2 of the 4 applications were unlawful, you can call it spying.
    Police lie to get search warrants... we don’t refer to that as spying

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    Now it's a semantics argument about the word "spying". Philo not interested in semantics until semantics are useful to him.

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    These forums are a lot like how a socialist system would really operate: Everyone would show up to collect theirs, few would show up to pay into it.

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    Long article, but good read

    The FBI Scandal

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