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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    GTFO, you're trolling. WTF are you exactly expecting with PATFO perennially picking in the bottom of the 1st round year after after year? And I'll gladly wear my sniffer badge. You're wannabe Mav Krew would get laughed at endlessly in public for the you and your cyber pals spew on here.
    I personally didn't expect much, but I sure as don't expect somebody to tell me they're exceptional at drafting either, which is what I was calling out.

    Suddenly, if you said they're not not all that great picking, you're trolling and a mav krew? Why, because they lucked out with Manu in the 2nd round 20 years ago?

    No takers yet from the fanbois to grab that list and defend those picks.

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    I personally didn't expect much, but I sure as don't expect somebody to tell me they're exceptional at drafting either, which is what I was calling out.

    Suddenly, if you said they're not not all that great picking, you're trolling and a mav krew? Why, because they lucked out with Manu in the 2nd round 20 years ago?

    No takers yet from the fanbois to grab that list and defend those picks.
    I've already mentioned the names of the players that were successful that the Spurs drafted in the past 10 years. You moved the goalposts on my answer. You mentioned Manu, but you won't give PATFO credit for draft him. Guess Parker doesn't count either huh? Sad how far you've fallen on here El.

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    I've already mentioned the names of the players that were successful that the Spurs drafted in the past 10 years. You moved the goalposts on my answer. You mentioned Manu, but you won't give PATFO credit for draft him. Guess Parker doesn't count either huh? Sad how far you've fallen on here El.
    So Corey Joseph, Fathead, White and Murray? Let's add Walker in there too, just in case.

    My issue with living in nostalgia-land is that very rarely somebody keeps a job for what they did 20 years ago. I don't know how many jobs you had where you can just get away with being average, if that, for 5-10 years in an extremely compe ive market. This is a business after all.

    Plus, the franchise is not what it was 20 years ago. Drafting and developing is much, much more important now that there's no Duncan to hold their hands, and put some makeup on maybe not so clear cut decisions.

    Now, if the argument is that this FO is much better at identifying and trading for talent, that's fair.

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    It's not about favorites. Pop always plays the long game when it comes to young players with the 1 exception being Duncan. You must not recall Parker and Ginobili being benched at various stages early in their career. Look at Patty as another example, he was glued to the bench, towel waving before he got his opportunity. Having said that, do I agree with Lonnie not playing more minutes, no but let's not pretend Pop doesn't have a plan in mind to get Lonnie to flourish. You can disagree with his strategy but Pop still wants the same end result.
    Pop never benched Parker for games on end... He only would bench him during a game... Secondly Pop isn't the same... To act like 2001 Pop and 2019 Pop operate the same is dishonest....

    Thirdly yall said he had a long term plan for many players that ended up being traded... I don't think he is this mastermind... I just think he doesn’t think Lonnie is that good and would make the team better... Ja Morant would be in Austin if he were here...Curry would never be as good as he is because like I keep saying, the first time he pulls up from 40 on a fast break, he would be benched for months, and would never do it again... Pop neutered players... So the psychological effects of Pop benching young players causes them to be passive because they are afraid of not playing again...

    None of the big 3 were ever benched for ten plus games for any reason, nevertheless making a mistake... Kawhi was never done that way... This is recent behavior from Pop, and we have yet to see a player progress at a pace that young players on other teams have progressed in a similar span of time... They give their players the freedom to play their game and make mistakes

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    A good list will list all the players passed over for who they chose to draft instead. All the missed opportunities on draft night.
    That list is long as ... I've always said that... We passed over a ton of players over the years (along with players we drafted and gave away before they got to play with us that ended up being decent for other teams)

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    That list is long as ... I've always said that... We passed over a ton of players over the years (along with players we drafted and gave away before they got to play with us that ended up being decent for other teams)
    This might be the single most ing stupid argument against the FO on the forum. As in, legitimately re ed. You're gonna criticize the franchises' drafting over players they didn't get, with their single draft pick, after these players' careers have already panned out? Are you familiar with the concept of "hindsight" or would you like an explanation?

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    So Corey Joseph, Fathead, White and Murray? Let's add Walker in there too, just in case.

    My issue with living in nostalgia-land is that very rarely somebody keeps a job for what they did 20 years ago. I don't know how many jobs you had where you can just get away with being average, if that, for 5-10 years in an extremely compe ive market. This is a business after all.

    Plus, the franchise is not what it was 20 years ago. Drafting and developing is much, much more important now that there's no Duncan to hold their hands, and put some makeup on maybe not so clear cut decisions.

    Now, if the argument is that this FO is much better at identifying and trading for talent, that's fair.
    So White was picked 20 years ago, huh? Also Lonnie, who half the forum was knoblicking after the Rockets game? Developing consecutive 29th picks into starting caliber players seems like fine development to me, I seriously don't know what you're expecting but you're delusional to expect anything else. If Lonnie shows any more consistent scoring similar to what he did against the Rockets, it'll be a massive drafting win as well. But surely you'll be here complaining about Pop not giving him minutes, instead of praising the FO who picked him in the first place... Sad.

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