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  1. #126
    sick demented ring****** ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    So, illegal aliens don't have the same Cons utional rights as us after all.
    So you can't understand plain English.

    trying to change your own subject.

    ing moron.

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    So you can't understand plain English.

    trying to change your own subject.

    ing moron.
    Chump lashing out cos he's getting called out on unequal application of the Cons ution.

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    Chump lashing out cos he's getting called out on unequal application of the Cons ution.
    derp

    You're simply wrong, dude.

    Quit whining about it.

    ing moron.

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    derp

    You're simply wrong, dude.

    Quit whining about it.

    ing moron.
    More lashing out.

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    sick demented ring****** ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    OK, derp.

    Let's see your legal argument.

    Cite your case law and legal theory.

    Do that.

    Or accept you're a ing moron.

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    OK, derp.

    Let's see your legal argument.

    Cite your case law and legal theory.

    Do that.

    Or accept you're a ing moron.
    Cite cases even though you've already trashed me

    LOL Dump

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    Cite cases even though you've already trashed me

    LOL Dump
    ing moron derp folds.

    lol ing moron

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    ing moron derp folds.

    lol ing moron
    There it is. Pretending you weren't just tapping out in a play to safe face.

    lol Dump

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    There it is. Pretending you weren't just tapping out in a play to safe face.

    lol Dump
    I called you out you ing moron.

    You can't cite one case.

    You can't cite one legal theory.

    You folded.

    You don't know how the law works.

    You can't understand plain English.

    You're a ing moron.

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    Cool. So, you're showing me that it's 'The Bill Of Some Rights,' according to some judges.

    Remember that the next time you're crying about detained illegal aliens not being treated perfectly.
    that code section is not about undo ented/illegal aliens. its specifically for aliens on non-immigrant visas. undo ented migrants do not enter under a nonimmigrant visa

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    that code section is not about undo ented/illegal aliens. its specifically for aliens on non-immigrant visas. undo ented migrants do not enter under a nonimmigrant visa
    I realize that, Lite. My point is Chump is touting laws that treat persons as being unequal.

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    I realize that, Lite. My point is Chump is touting laws that treat persons as being unequal.


    You want another class to be equally unequal?

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    Chump making nonsensical claims; another face saving tactic he regularly uses.

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    Chump making nonsensical claims; another face saving tactic he regularly uses.
    I know you are too stupid to understand.

    That joke wasn't for you.

    ing moron

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    I know you keep lashing out.

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    It's uncons utional if you're of the belief that migrant are afforded the same rights as citizens. And that is the position of your ilk.

    But let me have it both ways

    lol Dump
    here's some good reading on the cons utionality of it, if you are interested in that subject matter

    Aliens

    Another provision of the Gun Control Act, 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(5), prohibits unlawfully present aliens and most categories of nonimmigrant visa holders from possessing firearms. In determining whether the Second Amendment covers non-U.S. citizens, courts have looked to whether such persons come within the ambit of "the people" as used in the text of Second Amendment.223 This inquiry has produced a circuit split. Some courts that have considered the issue have concluded that "the people" does not encompass unlawfully present aliens.224 For instance, the Fifth Circuit in United States v. Portillo-Munoz recounted that the Supreme Court in er noted that "the people" include "law-abiding, responsible citizens" and "all members of the political community."225 Because unlawfully present aliens fit neither description, the court concluded that they are granted no rights by the Second Amendment.226 Moreover, to bolster its conclusion that the restriction in § 922(g)(5) is cons utional, the court added that "Congress has the authority to make laws governing the conduct of aliens that would be uncons utional if made to apply to citizens."227

    However, a number of circuit courts, while ultimately holding § 922(g)(5) to be cons utional, have opined that "the people," as used in the Second Amendment, could include some unlawfully present aliens.228 For example, in United States v. Meza-Rodriguez, the Seventh Circuit analyzed § 922(g)(5) as applied to an alien who was brought the United States as a young child.229 In determining whether the defendant was protected by the Second Amendment, the court analyzed the meaning of "the people."230 Like the Fifth Circuit, the Seventh Circuit found that er links Second Amendment rights to law-abiding citizens, which, as someone who entered the country illegally, Meza-Rodriguez technically is not.231 But the court also concluded that the Supreme Court was not defining "the people" when making that connection in er.232 Accordingly, the Seventh Circuit relied on the Supreme Court's earlier opinion in United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez, which opined that "the people," for the purposes of protection under the First, Second, and Fourth Amendments, "refers to a class of persons who are part of a national community or who have otherwise developed sufficient connection with this country to be considered part of that community."233 The defendant in Meza-Rodriguez met that standard because, the Seventh Circuit concluded, he had "extensive ties" with the United States, including his 20-year residency beginning as a child, attendance at U.S. public schools, and close family relationships with persons in the United States.234 Nevertheless, the court held that § 922(g)(5) is cons utional, reasoning that the government made a strong showing that its interest in "prohibiting persons who are difficult to track and have an interest in eluding law enforcement" supports the firearm ban.235

    Additionally, the Tenth Circuit in United States v. Huitron-Guizar assumed that unlawfully present aliens, like the defendant—who also had been in the United States for decades and was brought to the country as a young child—could assert a Second Amendment right, noting that "we hesitate to infer from er a rule that the right to bear arms is categorically inapplicable to non-citizens."236 Applying intermediate scrutiny to § 922(g)(5), the court concluded that the law is cons utional, deferring to Congress's "cons utional power to distinguish between citizens and non-citizens, or between lawful and unlawful aliens, and to ensure safety and order."237 Ultimately, the court found a substantial fit between the government's interests in crime control and public safety, and its desire to keep firearms out of the hands of those it deems as "irresponsible or dangerous."238
    https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/R44618.html

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    I read an instructor called the killer "porn stache".

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    KSA paying off victims for "the shooting thing" sounds straight out of Sharia law:


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