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    apprently Mike Penis, Marco Rubio and Ronald Rump disagree

    Guaido
    Alright?

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    It's socialist and its doing bad so that means the U.S. secretly runs it
    They've been running off the same regime more or less, and went to . Can't depends on oil so much, but I guess if it makes trump look bad a delayed Civil War is better than on going one?

    pretty stupid thread, can't even blame the Cia on this mess.

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    Allwrong you mean

    guaido is a clown

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    They've been running off the same regime more or less, and went to . Can't depends on oil so much, but I guess if it makes trump look bad a delayed Civil War is better than on going one?

    pretty stupid thread, can't even blame the Cia on this mess.
    Rump, Penis and little Marco all named Guaido their guy

    he just got bukkaked in his own assembly while Maduro is hitting homers at d park

    take the L and move on nig

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    Rump, Penis and little Marco all named Guaido their guy

    he just got bukkaked in his own assembly while Maduro is hitting homers at d park

    take the L and move on nig
    I don't live vicariously through trump, not taking any L and I doubt he cares himself. I'm just happy Hillary isn't in office tbh

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    Allwrong you mean

    guaido is a clown
    Aren't they both just different degrees of socialism? They're both clowns in that regard

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    fled their countries for the US
    hails their country as great examples the US should strive to become
    suggests similar governments in US as the ones they fled

    hater's crew

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    I don't live vicariously through trump, not taking any L and I doubt he cares himself. I'm just happy Hillary isn't in office tbh

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    fled their countries for the US
    hails their country as great examples the US should strive to become
    suggests similar governments in US as the ones they fled

    hater's crew
    happened to have his fattas born in US

    thinks hes any better because of this random event

    pretends not to care yet posts 100 times a day

    DMC yipeey kayeey

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    hails their country as great examples the US should strive to become
    To be fair I hear the garbage tastes great this time of year in Venezuela

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    To be fair I hear the garbage tastes great this time of year in Venezuela
    in dc near the white house too tbqh

    lots of leftover macdonalds from a fat orange bas

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    in dc near the white house too tbqh

    lots of leftover macdonalds from a fat orange bas
    jiggaboos and their love of eating bobbed-apple style from the dumpster.

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    this is Guaido

    he actually pretended he could not get over the fence when nobody was stopoing him



    Marco Rubio
    don't know what Guaido was worried about, despite not currently being elected to anything.


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    Biden

    "Interim president"


    These americans are a ing clown show all of them

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    Maduro FTMFW

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    USAID's IG characterizes aid to Venezuela's interim government as a fraud risk, but maybe one of the aims of US aid is to corrupt US friendly officials.

    https://oig.usaid.gov/sites/default/...21-005-P_0.pdf

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    talks in Mexico City are unlikely to lead to very much, but disclose a much changed regional landscape



    As for the current negotiations, at the 13 August session in Mexico City, all parties signalled their disposition to partial agreements, potentially allowing the process to gain more adherents if negotiators can demonstrate concrete progress in the early stages. In a show of support for the need to seek a negotiated solution to the political and economic crisis, Stalin González, a Capriles ally who in 2019 served as a Guaidó-appointed negotiator, has joined the opposition team for the talks. The move might represent an opportunity for the Guaidó and Capriles camps to patch up their differences.

    The countries mainly responsible for international sanctions – the U.S., Canada and the members of the European Union (EU) – have helped make the shift in position more credible by offering the possibility of phased sanctions relief married to substantive progress at the talks. This step is a major advance after years in which Washington and Brussels pursued widely divergent, even contradictory strategies, with the U.S. insisting that it would lift sanctions only if Maduro departed and the EU showing more flexibility. In another move that Crisis Group has often urged, major foreign stakeholders will escort the talks directly via an accompaniment scheme or indirectly through a Group of Friends of the negotiation. The direct presence of Russia, a key ally of Maduro and of his armed forces, is particularly significant. Russia has purposefully acted to avoid any outcome that nets clear gains for the U.S. and its partners, but it would benefit from an agreement that preserves its economic interests in Venezuela.

    Closer affinity among the major powers is matched by changes in the regional political balance. After talks broke down in 2019, sixteen of Venezuela’s neighbours voted to activate the Inter-American Treaty of Reciprocal Assistance – a mutual defence pact – calling the Maduro government a threat to regional security. The move was promoted by the Lima Group, an ad hoc alliance of Latin American and Caribbean governments formed in August 2017 to press for a political transition in Venezuela. In spite of this sabre-rattling, the neighbour states never took meaningful action, and the political tide in the region has since rendered the environment less hostile to Maduro. In July, Peru, the nominal home of the Lima Group, elected a far-left president, Pedro Castillo, who is likely to take a very different line on Venezuela than his immediate predecessors. Argentina, Bolivia and Saint Lucia have left the group, while Mexico stopped signing its communiqués in 2019. The leftist governments of Andrés Manuel López Obrador in Mexico and Alberto Fernández in Argentina have played a behind-the-scenes role in bringing about the latest talks, which the former is hosting and the latter may join as a member of the Group of Friends.
    https://www.crisisgroup.org/latin-am...n-breakthrough

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    They should be free to eat their garbage in peace

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    They should be free to eat their garbage in peace
    Why do you suppose they have to eat garbage?

    Economic sanctions are the modern version of siege warfare -- aimed at breaking down the adversary by denying people the basics of life.

    If someone ever did it to us we'd call it terrorism and war.

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    Why do you suppose they have to eat garbage?

    Economic sanctions are the modern version of siege warfare -- aimed at breaking down the adversary by denying people the basics of life.

    If someone ever did it to us we'd call it terrorism and war.
    Laugh my ass off imagine if you gave Democrats or the U.S the benefit of doubt the way you give all these other groups.

    The government of Nicolás Maduro and its security forces are responsible for extrajudicial executions and short-term forced disappearances and have jailed opponents, prosecuted civilians in military courts, tortured detainees, and cracked down on protesters. They used a state of emergency implemented in response to Covid-19 as an excuse to punish dissent and intensify their control over the population.
    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/202...ers/venezuela#

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    Laugh my ass off imagine if you gave Democrats or the U.S the benefit of doubt the way you give all these other groups.



    https://www.hrw.org/world-report/202...ers/venezuela#
    I wasn't giving anyone the benefit of a doubt, I was talking about US policy specifically. Venezuela having a ty human rights record doesn't give the US the right (in my opinion) to deprive the Venezuelan people of food, fuel and medicine. By placing sanctions we aren't hurting Venezuela's autocrats at all -- we're directly hurting innocent people.

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    Venezuela and Cuba convert to full socialist authoritarian dictatorships with horrible human rights records and their government and economy goes right down the toilet. Leftists do nothing but wine and make excuses for them and downplay their horrible human rights records and economic failures.

    Obama/Biden rescue broken and crushed economies twice and leftists can't do nothing but on them because of supposed right wing economic policies and then post any story about America that makes it look bad due to them.




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    Venezuela and Cuba convert to full socialist authoritarian dictatorships with horrible human rights records and their government and economy goes right down the toilet. Leftists do nothing but wine and make excuses for them and downplay their horrible human rights records and economic failures.

    Obama/Biden rescue broken and crushed economies twice and leftists can't do nothing but on them because of supposed right wing economic policies and then post any story about America that makes it look bad due to them.



    Cuba has suffered much more from 60 years of bully USA's sanctions and embargoes than from Communism

    bully USA doing the same to VZ

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    I wasn't making excuses for anyone, I stipulated Venezuela's crappy human rights record. I can see you covering the US's ass though.

    Sorry you've got sand in your drawers about criticism of Obama and Biden, not sure how that relates to this topic.

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