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    really? id like to see that. not accusing you of lying. simply curious.
    Arthur is a data scientist who also has worked at the statistics site FiveThirtyEight.com, where he established that a change in the baseballs used in the major leagues contributed to a jump in home run rates, a finding later confirmed by Major League Baseball’s own investigation.
    Arthur’s analysis resembles those of some other experts who have found either a very modest gain from the cheating or one that’s virtually impossible to quantify in the real world.

    “The net effect of the banging comes astonishingly close to being zero,” Arthur wrote on Jan. 30. “Nothing. Statistically, for all the work and effort that went into the cheating scheme, the grand result of it ... turned out to be no runs at al

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    “Even if the mystery about what pitch is being thrown is eliminated, there are still a host of other variables to account for (break, location, count, etc.),” wrote Jeff Wiser on Baseball Prospectus. “There’s a lot that still has to transpire before a shared sign results in a well-batted ball with a favorable outcome. Those wrinkles will forever complicate any assessment of Houston’s gains.”


    from the same LA times article

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    mono. Got bored, decided to walk down to the park and catch a glimpse at this sexy mf.

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    Arthur is a data scientist who also has worked at the statistics site FiveThirtyEight.com, where he established that a change in the baseballs used in the major leagues contributed to a jump in home run rates, a finding later confirmed by Major League Baseball’s own investigation.
    Arthur’s analysis resembles those of some other experts who have found either a very modest gain from the cheating or one that’s virtually impossible to quantify in the real world.

    “The net effect of the banging comes astonishingly close to being zero,” Arthur wrote on Jan. 30. “Nothing. Statistically, for all the work and effort that went into the cheating scheme, the grand result of it ... turned out to be no runs at al
    interesting that you use this as evidence that the writer of the article is a sabermetrican

    especially considering the name of the writer of the article is Michael Hiltzik, but the sabermetrican named here is Robert Arthur

    does he have two names?

    “Even if the mystery about what pitch is being thrown is eliminated, there are still a host of other variables to account for (break, location, count, etc.),” wrote Jeff Wiser on Baseball Prospectus. “There’s a lot that still has to transpire before a shared sign results in a well-batted ball with a favorable outcome. Those wrinkles will forever complicate any assessment of Houston’s gains.”


    from the same LA times article
    oh I take it back. he has three names. he is also known as Jeff Wiser

    i look forward to seeing more analysis from Michael-Robert-Jeff Hiltzik-Arthur-Wiser

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    I'm glad my Angels don't have any asterisk rings, tbh.

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    I'm glad my Angels don't have any asterisk rings, tbh.
    That's cuz they suck ass. The one off championships can be chalk up to complacency by top tier teams. The Yankees had come off a dominating 3 run championship seasons. 02 Angels were just the lucky team who drew the magic number while top tier teams recharged their batteries.

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    That's cuz they suck ass. The one off championships can be chalk up to complacency by top tier teams. The Yankees had come off a dominating 3 run championship seasons. 02 Angels were just the lucky team who drew the magic number while top tier teams recharged their batteries.
    I don't chalk it up to that at all. 02 Angels batting order was the best in team history. The starting pitching was among the better staffs in team history with guys like Washburn and Lackey in great form. Scott Shields was an unsung hero as a long reliever too. The Donnelly, K-Rod, Percy combo was lights out, so we pretty much won just about every time when we led through six innings.

    The team started 6-14 and still finished with 99 wins and was only not the division winner because that is the year the A's won 20 in a row to finish with 102 wins. The Angels pummeled the Yankees and Twins; it was readily obvious who the better team was. Angels batted around on the Yankees in the clincher. I was at that game; Yankees had no answers for our contact hitters. They were good; but retrospectively, I've never thought we were lucky. We were frankly just better outright. Even when we were letting Game 1 slip, I thought that it was our series and our year.

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    I will amend that the Angels were lucky to beat the Giants when they had us down and had outplayed is in a couple games. I knew we were in trouble when we came out lackadaisical in Game 1 and didn't beat an unspectacular Giants team on that night. I knew they would legit outplay us at least a game or two; so, I thought winning Games 1 and 2 to retain HFA was the key. Then win 1 or 2 of 3 in SF and close it out or have two shots at home to beat an inferior team.

    But then the Giants won that first game and had one of their two really good batting games in Game 2 and we needed one of our patented offensive explosions just to avoid complete disaster. And Game 6 again, I was not expecting to be down big; but that was the year of the rally monkey. The rest is history.

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    So much for that:


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    So the Red sox thing is still going or are they cleared? Whatever they did wasn't as blatant as the Astros so if they did cheat you have to give them credit for doing it low key and not going full re like with the trash can banging.

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