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    That's a of a wall of text for you not giving a rat's ass.
    Lol... the quan y of words does not linearly correlate with the time I invest in any given post. It is a simplistic assumption on your part. And you again missed the point. I don’t care what anyone here in the forum chooses to believe about me - especially hate filled people bent on forcing others to believe what they do. Comprende?

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    Lol... the quan y of words does not linearly correlate with the time I invest in any given post. It is a simplistic assumption on your part. And you again missed the point. I don’t care what anyone here in the forum believes about me - especially hate filled people bent on forcing others to believe what they do. Comprende?
    Not really. You're trying really hard to convince everyone of something you say you couldn't give a rats ass about.

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    "linearly correlate"

    Dude cares a lot.

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    No... lol more red herring ad hominems.

    I have a 12 year old taking differential calculus and heat transfer and thermodynamics. I have a 10 year old taking physics and a 7 year old that can already play 7 different musical instruments. After work I use two hours of my day to homeschool them on these subjects. So yeah, sorry but not sorry to give them priority over the petty vitriol I get from forum members here. I’m much too busy empowering them with the same type of job skills that have placed me in the upper middle class DESPITE a stupid narrative from Marxist politicians suggesting that “the boogeyman; aka white man and his privileged systems” are designed to keep brown-skinned migrants such as myself from excelling in this nation. Everyone in my family OWNS their own house on account of hard work and good life-decisions made by my conservative parents despite my father earning minimum pay during the formative years of my life. My life experience is an everyday reminder that unequivocally counters the narratives trumpeted by your likeminded ”progressive” demagogues. I’m an American patriot even while I still love Mexico, its food, its people, its cultural history, its music, its women, its art, its architecture and its vistas. I get lambasted by folks like you all simply because I’m not a fan of my birth nation’s leftist/socialist government - which surprise surprise is largely to blame for creating the exodus migration that has been incurred by the US over the last 8 decades.

    But you all are so self-absorbed in this delusion that you are unable to see that you all largely believe a lie.
    You really shouldn't be pointing fingers and calling other people delusional when you have faith in an invisible man in the sky, tbh... at the very least, it's irrational, which is the very definition of delusion.

    Glad you're doing well, and your kids too, but that really has nothing to do with your conservative indoctrination. Plenty of progressive/lefty millionaires and billionaires out there, Nobel prize winners, etc. Work ethic doesn't have a party or political leaning.

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    You set the table for a "pissing match" and I refused to participate. Who makes you judge, jury and executioner over anyone here? On what authority do you claim to have any sovereignty over my own prerogatives? For example, I could counter with multi-discipline problems based on the actual physical laws which govern our world (instead of the dimensionless and frictionless problem you decided to frame up in your hypothetical system). I have to solve such problems on any given day as part of my job role, but what would any of this prove? When I decide to solve problems there is real world remuneration for me. What do I earn by posting an answer to your problem? Your respect? Your admiration? Nah... it's all inconsequential and therefore a waste of my time. Pointing out the futility of this dynamic is at least rewarding to me in that you are failing to see how no matter what I choose to do in your mind it will change nothing.

    Again, you'll just decide move the goalposts in an attempt to undermine the fact that my life [and others out there] directly negate the leftist world view that you hold so dear. The cognitive dissonance you wish to avoid bringing upon yourself is clear to me. The denial of your delusion eludes you. I don't know which part annoys you the most: the fact that I don't need the public education system to propel my children to academic excellence? The part where my wife stays home and teaches the children music, literature, history, biology and art? The part where they are academically years ahead of most kids in their respective age groups? Or the part where I don't care about your social constructs and paradigms to frame up what I know are the best possible curriculums for my children? None of my children are identical and my wife and I work diligently to develop each of their academic journeys based on their own unique proficiencies and developmental plans. Honestly, I don't give a rat's ass if you believe me or not. My focus and my priorities will still be on them and on proficiently excelling in my job.
    I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS /TEXTWALL

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    You really shouldn't be pointing fingers and calling other people delusional when you have faith in an invisible man in the sky, tbh... at the very least, it's irrational, which is the very definition of delusion.

    Glad you're doing well, and your kids too, but that really has nothing to do with your conservative indoctrination. Plenty of progressive/lefty millionaires and billionaires out there, Nobel prize winners, etc. Work ethic doesn't have a party or political leaning.
    PLENTY OF SCIENCE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN GOD THO AND I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS TEACHING HOME SCHOOL KIDS PHYSICS AND HOW TO USE PHONE DICTION /TEXTWALL

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    You set the table.

    Bringing your extraordinary children, who are homeschooled by an extraordinary dad, who makes more money than I.
    No need to go through all that .

    You got called on it. Dimensionless... No. Made easier, yes. Answerable.
    You lied.
    Pretty simple.

    So your opinions on the subject at hand are possibly a little less worth reading.
    My take. Anyways, Trump is a good man for you to emulate from the truthfulness perspective.
    All this is lacking is the "hahahahahaha.. little man" to be Avante's doppelganger.

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    Dmc not referring to anything said here at all just talking about people with his mouth full of ankle

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    All this is lacking is the "hahahahahaha.. little man" to be Avante's doppelganger.
    And you accuse other posters of ankle biting...
    Again, you perfectly illustrate what you find irritating in others.
    Do your contradictions ever bother you?

    Im guessing the nature-nurture gaff that showed complete ignorance in a subject you cared about really stung.
    You read an article, swallow it whole, expand on it, and then get hammered. Do I need to apologize to stop your fascination with my posts?

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    And you accuse other posters of ankle biting...
    Again, you perfectly illustrate what you find irritating in others.
    Do your contradictions ever bother you?

    Im guessing the nature-nurture gaff that showed complete ignorance in a subject you cared about really stung.
    You read an article, swallow it whole, expand on it, and then get hammered. Do I need to apologize to stop your fascination with my posts?
    No you're a ing idiot. Nature vs nurture is a very common concept that anybody who doesn't have their head shoved up their ass should know.

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    Says the guy who admittedly said he defines humans as non-humans when they are in the womb - while claiming NOT to employ "mental gymnastics" in doing so.
    More shrugs.


    You avoided having to engage with criticism by turning it back on the accuser - you answered criticism with criticism.
    Pronounced too-kwo-kwee. Literally translating as 'you too' this fallacy is also known as the appeal to hypocrisy. It is commonly employed as an effective red herring because it takes the heat off someone having to defend their argument, and instead shifts the focus back on to the person making the criticism.

    Example: Nicole identified that Hannah had committed a logical fallacy, but instead of addressing the substance of her claim, Hannah accused Nicole of committing a fallacy earlier on in the conversation.
    https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

    Ancient understanding of when a person was a person, such as Judaism that forms the actual basis of your religion held that age was 10 years after birth. If you hold the definition of a person as being a cluster of cells in a womb, you need to reconcile that with your lack of concern for the 60-70% of embryos that never implant. What is your plan to save those billions of humans?

    Setting definitions aside, I am just not comfortable forcing one person to risk their lives and provide parts of their body to another. If you conclude that a fetus before viability is a person, you can't escape that forbidding the termination of a pregnancy does just that.

    All that said, you still would rather deflect than defend a book that you know to be evil. Sokay.
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    But you still didn't hear the video. It encapsulates the violent mindset of all of those Antifa peeps you all constantly want to "disassociate" yourselves from. And yet you all promote the same type of government "authoritarianism."

    I did indeed listen to the video. You are factually incorrect.



    The anecdotal fallacy uses a personal experience or an isolated example instead of a sound argument.

    Example of Anecdotal
    Leanne thinks smoking does not affect life expectancy since her grandmother smoked for 4 decades and lived to be 87.
    The fact that Leanne's grandmother did not result in cancer or other kind of disease, does not mean that someone else with the same behavior would have had the same result.
    I have never seen a happy marriage. Getting married is a bad idea.
    Even though the speaker has only seen unhappy marriages, it does not mean that there are no happy marriages and that people should avoid getting married.
    or alternately:

    Guilt by Association: The fallacy of trying to refute or condemn someone's standpoint, arguments or actions by evoking the negative ethos of those with whom the speaker is identified or of a group, party, religion or race to which he or she belongs or was once associated with. A form of Ad Hominem Argument, e.g., "Don't listen to her. She's a Republican so you can't trust anything she says," or "Are you or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?" An extreme instance of this is the Machiavellian "For my enemies, nothing" Fallacy, where real or perceived "enemies" are by definition always wrong and must be conceded nothing, not even the time of day, e.g., "He's a Republican, so even if he said the sky is blue I wouldn't believe him."
    You would have to work a lot harder to make that case than one guy. Sorry.

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    No you're a ing idiot. Nature vs nurture is a very common concept that anybody who doesn't have their head shoved up their ass should know.
    Well then you have your head up your ass because you are totally confusing genes with the environment that acts on genes. By your reasoning I could biologically inherit my fathers experiences in his college classes through his DNA. I could then pass this on to my offspring. Good luck with that. You royally ed up.

    The interesting thing about this is I understand this and you most likely also understand your f up. But other posters don’t give a . So you play to the audience that is the board, and I confront you directly.

    You need to look good I guess as the substance you provide is awful. If you do know something about a particular subject, stay with that subject.

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    No... lol more red herring ad hominems.

    I have a 12 year old taking differential calculus and heat transfer and thermodynamics. I have a 10 year old taking physics and a 7 year old that can already play 7 different musical instruments. After work I use two hours of my day to homeschool them on these subjects. So yeah, sorry but not sorry to give them priority over the petty vitriol I get from forum members here. I’m much too busy empowering them with the same type of job skills that have placed me in the upper middle class DESPITE a stupid narrative from Marxist politicians suggesting that “the boogeyman; aka white man and his privileged systems” are designed to keep brown-skinned migrants such as myself from excelling in this nation. Everyone in my family OWNS their own house on account of hard work and good life-decisions made by my conservative parents despite my father earning minimum pay during the formative years of my life. My life experience is an everyday reminder that unequivocally counters the narratives trumpeted by your likeminded ”progressive” demagogues. I’m an American patriot even while I still love Mexico, its food, its people, its cultural history, its music, its women, its art, its architecture and its vistas. I get lambasted by folks like you all simply because I’m not a fan of my birth nation’s leftist/socialist government - which surprise surprise is largely to blame for creating the exodus migration that has been incurred by the US over the last 8 decades.

    But you all are so self-absorbed in this delusion that you are unable to see that you all largely believe a lie.
    ... and for all your hard work and children's brilliance, you wallow in flawed thinking and arguments.

    You use hasty generalizations, such as the gotcha video, to categorize tens or hundreds of millions of people you have never met.

    I have always strongly suspected that holding religious beliefs, especially strong ones, tends to make you more prone to flawed thinking in other areas. It takes a certain amount of irrationality, i.e. faith (here as belief in the truth of something without good reason), to be religious. Once you go down that path, it opens up the way to all sorts of other reasoning errors.

    If you want to make a case for condemning an ideology, you will have to do a LOT better then "I saw a Project Veritas video with a guy saying some things".


    Frankly, I'm not sure you can. I think your religious beliefs poison your critical thinking.

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    Well then you have your head up your ass because you are totally confusing genes with the environment that acts on genes. By your reasoning I could biologically inherit my fathers experiences in his college classes through his DNA. I could then pass this on to my offspring. Good luck with that. You royally ed up.

    The interesting thing about this is I understand this and you most likely also understand your f up. But other posters don’t give a . So you play to the audience that is the board, and I confront you directly.

    You need to look good I guess as the substance you provide is awful. If you do know something about a particular subject, stay with that subject.
    Pretty sure I never said anything of the sort. Your entire argument rests on proof by assertion.

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    Blake not getting any play - anklebites in passing
    No Take McGurk talking about anklebiting.

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    No... the dude spoke approvingly of Cuba killing ‘reactionaries’ on the beaches, and talked about dragging MSNBC members out by their hair and setting them on fire. Seriously you all keep digging yourselves into a deeper hole simply because you all are too lazy to actually hear the video. This Bernie staffer is disturbing and represents the worst of left.

    You all are missing the point of my first posts as you all always seem to do... led by your snide smuggery in the forefront.

    You all constantly employ the fallacy of generalization as a means to your rampant dismissiveness of any issues we point out. You all constantly equate all Trump supporters as being represented by the worst of the worst on the "right" (White Supremacists, etc...)

    I said, all violent instigators should be investigated/jailed (NO MATTER WHAT IDEOLOGY THEY REPRESENT).

    But that context conveniently was thrown out the door.
    I would agree on the bold bit.

    The big problem I have is that Trump supporters don't tend to really want to distance themselves from the white supremicists, who are now saying the quiet parts out loud.

    When some WS jackass like King has the nuts to say the quiet parts outloud instead of the agreed on codewords "welfare queen" "thug" etc, they do get smacked down.

    What I definitely don't see are any Trump party politicians really going all out against this problem. On the whole I see them as more than willing to tolerate the white supremicists in their midst. Why? The Trump party still needs their votes.

    THAT I can easily find fault in.

    Not all Trump party are white supremicists, but almost all white supremicists support Trump. The Venn diagram of WS and modern right puts the WS circle firmly within the modern right.

    Why is that?

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    You use hasty generalizations, such as the gotcha video, to categorize tens or hundreds of millions of people you have never met.
    That's you and several others mentality towards the Red pills and select other groups.

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    You really shouldn't be pointing fingers and calling other people delusional when you have faith in an invisible man in the sky, tbh... at the very least, it's irrational, which is the very definition of delusion.

    Glad you're doing well, and your kids too, but that really has nothing to do with your conservative indoctrination. Plenty of progressive/lefty millionaires and billionaires out there, Nobel prize winners, etc. Work ethic doesn't have a party or political leaning.
    Ah there it is... the “you can’t be considered an intellectual unless you also give up your faith-based beliefs” argument. “Since your belief in GOD makes you intellectually inferior THEN your position on other matters is also dubious - no, flat out wrong”. “Ergo your entire position on matters must be discarded and ignored and ridiculed...”

    The arrogance of that position, and your inability to contemplate the millions of counter examples to that belief is why ultimately, we cannot discuss anything here. That’s the delusion here and it goes beyond cognitive dissonance. Your assumption will always be that your position is the correct one and that mine is faulty or irrational. What I’m trying to point out is that my life experience by and large negates, in an absolute manner, the social paradigms that your belief system perpetuates as being true. The dynamic is one that you all conveniently want to ignore because “a successful home” IS the ultimate metric by which personal choices are validated or not. And because most of my life choices come from a conservative position you and none of the other leftist pontificators here want to acknowledge, or even give credence to the notion that your leftist world view may not be as great as you deem it to be. It may not be the only path.

    This whole thing started simply because your leftist gang was going on about Trump supporters being violent - and like always trying to paint us all with that brush. My position was that there are leftist folks who are also violent. I then proceeded to suggest that all of them should be investigated. Instead of everyone agreeing on this centrist position my post predictably gets attacked because people know my world view is conservative and therefore I can’t be allowed to have a rational point that holds any merit whatsoever. The pettiness here over semantics and whether or not I reply in short phrases or paragraphs is beyond ridiculous. The dogma here has blinded people from even agreeing on centrist matters - it’s an incredible dynamic but also a sad reflection of how bad the schism in ideologies has degraded one of America’s core values (the freedom to believe whatever you want to believe and to let others do so).

    The end game for leftist thought is fairly clear to me. You all ultimately want control of the government to force people to believe as you do because that type of society makes sense to you. Unfortunately for your cause, there are millions of Americans that will not bow down to that ideology and will not relinquish the freedom to raise their families as they see fit.

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    Ah there it is... the “you can’t be considered an intellectual unless you also give up your faith-based beliefs” argument. “Since your belief in GOD makes you intellectually inferior THEN your position on other matters is also dubious - no, flat out wrong”. “Ergo your entire position on matters must be discarded and ignored and ridiculed...”

    The arrogance of that position, and your inability to contemplate the millions of counter examples to that belief is why ultimately, we cannot discuss anything here. That’s the delusion here and it goes beyond cognitive dissonance. Your assumption will always be that your position is the correct one and that mine is faulty or irrational. What I’m trying to point out is that my life experience by and large negates, in an absolute manner, the social paradigms that your belief system perpetuates as being true. The dynamic is one that you all conveniently want to ignore because “a successful home” IS the ultimate metric by which personal choices are validated or not. And because most of my life choices come from a conservative position you and none of the other leftist pontificators here want to acknowledge, or even give credence to the notion that your leftist world view may not be as great as you deem it to be. It may not be the only path.

    This whole thing started simply because your leftist gang was going on about Trump supporters being violent - and like always trying to paint us all with that brush. My position was that there are leftist folks who are also violent. I then proceeded to suggest that all of them should be investigated. Instead of everyone agreeing on this centrist position my post predictably gets attacked because people know my world view is conservative and therefore I can’t be allowed to have a rational point that holds any merit whatsoever. The pettiness here over semantics and whether or not I reply in short phrases or paragraphs is beyond ridiculous. The dogma here has blinded people from even agreeing on centrist matters - it’s an incredible dynamic but also a sad reflection of how bad the schism in ideologies has degraded one of America’s core values (the freedom to believe whatever you want to believe and to let others do so).

    The end game for leftist thought is fairly clear to me. You all ultimately want control of the government to force people to believe as you do because that type of society makes sense to you. Unfortunately for your cause, there are millions of Americans that will not bow down to that ideology and will not relinquish the freedom to raise our families as they see fit.
    Nobody claimed that all trump supporters are violent. That’s a straw man

    what laws can you point to that the dreaded liberals have passed or tried to pass which support your claim that the goal is for government to force people like you to believe as they do. Understand that the religious right has actually tried codifying their religious beliefs on issues such as gay marriages, and front line presidential candidates (Ben carson) have outright said that people of certain faiths are by default unfit to be president

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    Ah there it is... the “you can’t be considered an intellectual unless you also give up your faith-based beliefs” argument. “Since your belief in GOD makes you intellectually inferior THEN your position on other matters is also dubious - no, flat out wrong”. “Ergo your entire position on matters must be discarded and ignored and ridiculed...”

    The arrogance of that position, and your inability to contemplate the millions of counter examples to that belief is why ultimately, we cannot discuss anything here. That’s the delusion here and it goes beyond cognitive dissonance. Your assumption will always be that your position is the correct one and that mine is faulty or irrational. What I’m trying to point out is that my life experience by and large negates, in an absolute manner, the social paradigms that your belief system perpetuates as being true. The dynamic is one that you all conveniently want to ignore because “a successful home” IS the ultimate metric by which personal choices are validated or not. And because most of my life choices come from a conservative position you and none of the other leftist pontificators here want to acknowledge, or even give credence to the notion that your leftist world view may not be as great as you deem it to be. It may not be the only path.

    This whole thing started simply because your leftist gang was going on about Trump supporters being violent - and like always trying to paint us all with that brush. My position was that there are leftist folks who are also violent. I then proceeded to suggest that all of them should be investigated. Instead of everyone agreeing on this centrist position my post predictably gets attacked because people know my world view is conservative and therefore I can’t be allowed to have a rational point that holds any merit whatsoever. The pettiness here over semantics and whether or not I reply in short phrases or paragraphs is beyond ridiculous. The dogma here has blinded people from even agreeing on centrist matters - it’s an incredible dynamic but also a sad reflection of how bad the schism in ideologies has degraded one of America’s core values (the freedom to believe whatever you want to believe and to let others do so).

    The end game for leftist thought is fairly clear to me. You all ultimately want control of the government to force people to believe as you do because that type of society makes sense to you. Unfortunately for your cause, there are millions of Americans that will not bow down to that ideology and will not relinquish the freedom to raise their families as they see fit.
    No, that's really ridiculous tbh, but religious conservatives can't seem to be truly happy unless they feel persecuted.

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    Ah there it is... the “you can’t be considered an intellectual unless you also give up your faith-based beliefs” argument. “Since your belief in GOD makes you intellectually inferior THEN your position on other matters is also dubious - no, flat out wrong”. “Ergo your entire position on matters must be discarded and ignored and ridiculed...”

    The arrogance of that position, and your inability to contemplate the millions of counter examples to that belief is why ultimately, we cannot discuss anything here. That’s the delusion here and it goes beyond cognitive dissonance. Your assumption will always be that your position is the correct one and that mine is faulty or irrational. What I’m trying to point out is that my life experience by and large negates, in an absolute manner, the social paradigms that your belief system perpetuates as being true. The dynamic is one that you all conveniently want to ignore because “a successful home” IS the ultimate metric by which personal choices are validated or not. And because most of my life choices come from a conservative position you and none of the other leftist pontificators here want to acknowledge, or even give credence to the notion that your leftist world view may not be as great as you deem it to be. It may not be the only path.

    This whole thing started simply because your leftist gang was going on about Trump supporters being violent - and like always trying to paint us all with that brush. My position was that there are leftist folks who are also violent. I then proceeded to suggest that all of them should be investigated. Instead of everyone agreeing on this centrist position my post predictably gets attacked because people know my world view is conservative and therefore I can’t be allowed to have a rational point that holds any merit whatsoever. The pettiness here over semantics and whether or not I reply in short phrases or paragraphs is beyond ridiculous. The dogma here has blinded people from even agreeing on centrist matters - it’s an incredible dynamic but also a sad reflection of how bad the schism in ideologies has degraded one of America’s core values (the freedom to believe whatever you want to believe and to let others do so).

    The end game for leftist thought is fairly clear to me. You all ultimately want control of the government to force people to believe as you do because that type of society makes sense to you. Unfortunately for your cause, there are millions of Americans that will not bow down to that ideology and will not relinquish the freedom to raise their families as they see fit.
    I JUST DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS PLACE ERGO THEREFORE SUCH AS MY HOME SCHOOL HONOR ROLL KIDS BIBLE TIME PHYSICS /TEXTWALL

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    so...

    You got a simple harmonic oscillating mass on a frictionless plane. The mass of the oscillator is M and the spring constant is K.
    What is the angular frequency of an object in uniform circular motion that projects itself in perfect phase with the oscillator moving in 1-d in rad/s in terms of M and K and any universal constants.

    You are the tutor for these kids... go

    step by step.

    This is algebra based physics so... a breeze.
    ooh Fun with algebra. Challenge accepted. (copies, prints problem for weekend, sets alarm as reminder)

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    That's you and several others mentality towards the Red pills and select other groups.
    I work pretty hard to use qualifiers. "not all" etc. I realize I am generalizing, and work not to go too far. Not always successful, but I try to be consistent about it.

    At some point though, groups are groups because of defining characteristics. Not entirely sure what you mean specifically about "Red pills", to be able to really comment.

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