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    The current crop of vaccines do not provide sterilizing immunity and, as the emergence of Delta has shown just a few months after the start of mass vaccination, the protection conferred may not be long lasting.

    Along with SnakeBoy, I'm hoping we'll see live attentuated vaccines soon. The immune system gets exposed to all the surface proteins, not just the e, and the protection lasts much longer.


    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delt...e-illness.html
    This would be preferable, but if you really want to scare the out of people who are already ignorant, tell them the vaccine is a LIVE attenuated virus.

    Also it must be noted most of the cases involving vaccinated people coming down with symptoms put themselves in situations where they were likely to get a large "dose" of virus. If you actually wanted an infection with symptoms after being vaccinated, you would put yourself in a small room with lots of people shedding live virus for a good period of time.. This appears to be the case in severe infections of vaccinated people. There are also some wtf severe reinfections, but with people having varying immune responses, its not surprising. Also some of the infections after vaccinations were people with already compromised immune systems. If I were a cancer survivor who had chemo and or radiation, and was vaccinated, I would absolutely be masking up in all situations around a lot of people inside coming and going with poor ventilation.

    I have a feeling the masking on airplanes and airports is here to stay for a good while.

    Again, thanks to our unvaccinated holdouts for knowing exactly how to produce a more virulent strain through evolution through "natural" selection. You suck. Our current vaccines did and are doing amazing things, a significant number of people vectors, did not.

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    Again, thanks to our unvaccinated holdouts for knowing exactly how to produce a more virulent strain through evolution through "natural" selection. You suck.
    Well, thank that unvaccinated person that just had to travel to India.

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    Well, thank that unvaccinated person that just had to travel to India.
    Remember when reaching herd immunity used to be your go-to?

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    DeSantis cancelled FL COVID restrictions in early May and forbid cities and counties to reimplement them. Businesses in FL can still require masks and social distancing.


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    Well, thank that unvaccinated person that just had to travel to India.
    It was not one person. The delta variant is not only in India.
    And the way it spreads IN THE US is through the unvaccinated.
    And you, personally, will be fine so no worries. Good luck on that vacation to Canada.

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    It was not one person. The delta variant is not only in India.
    And the way it spreads IN THE US is through the unvaccinated.
    And you, personally, will be fine so no worries. Good luck on that vacation to Canada.
    Wtf?

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    Remember when reaching herd immunity used to be your go-to?
    Still the goal.

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    DeSantis cancelled FL COVID restrictions in early May and forbid cities and counties to reimplement them. Businesses in FL can still require masks and social distancing.

    If Trump were president we could just attempt to hide cases, shut off any CDC number keeping.
    Put a Trump Nazi in every hospital and just burn the records.
    I mean this is now on Joe correct? Why is he actually admitting to a problem...?
    What happened to "poof its gone" one day, that worked with the derpals.

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    Thats right.
    You dont get economics outside your own home.
    Just one tiny example, you want more?
    You keep those backward eyes looking inward, it suits you.

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    Remember when you said healthy teenagers don't need to get vaccinated?

    If that's still your thought process then you don't really understand how we get to herd immunity

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    Remember when you said healthy teenagers don't need to get vaccinated?

    If that's still your thought process then you don't really understand how we get to herd immunity
    Darrin has been a weather vane pointing to wrong throughout this thread.

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    Darrin has been a weather vane pointing to wrong throughout this thread.
    He's part of the 40% that are consistently wrong but too stubborn to admit it, which results in nothing changing.

    These people are a scourge.

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    Remember when you said healthy teenagers don't need to get vaccinated?

    If that's still your thought process then you don't really understand how we get to herd immunity
    Herd immunity comes from vaccinated + naturally infected

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    Herd immunity comes from vaccinated + naturally infected
    Make up your mind

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    CDC = deer in headlights, etc


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    Well, thank that unvaccinated person that just had to travel to India.
    Ironic that the epidemic of Republican stupidity is proving just as dangerous as the virus.

    Thankfully it is just killing mostly among mouth-breathing Trump voters.

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    Herd immunity comes from vaccinated + naturally infected
    New mutations come from unvaccinated.

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    it's like Antifa utterly vanished



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    CDC = deer in headlights, etc

    Nobody knows for sure how to model a nonexistent unknown novel variant of a novel virus.

    Wow, hater -- you really told them!

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    New mutations come from unvaccinated.
    They come from anyone infected

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    They come from anyone infected
    Yeah you still don't understand how vaccines work

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    Yeah you still don't understand how vaccines work
    They don't provide sterilizing immunity

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    They don't provide sterilizing immunity
    The Darrin rodeo. I'll let someone else play.

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