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    - "Bot response."

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    Relax, it's going to be the US soon.
    Well that will be because everyone is living life normally.

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    Seattle apparently showing ebola antivirals may be improving patients conditions.
    But the recommended course is 10days and availability limits to 5 days of usage

    Plus they can't give it to patients with elevated liver enzymes, and COVD19 patients admitted are typically showing elevated liver enzymes.

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    Well that will be because everyone is living life normally.
    Exactly.

    And no paid sick leave for so many of them.

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    Exactly.

    And no paid sick leave.
    Paid sick leave didn't stop anything.

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    Well that will be because everyone is living life normally.
    And who told them to do that?

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    Paid sick leave didn't stop anything.
    It's not about stopping anything. You've learned absolutely nothing.

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    Muh agenda needs to be pushed.

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    Plus China is the hole country that started this.
    get you some Chinese propaganda:


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    It's not about stopping anything. You've learned absolutely nothing.
    Paid sick leave didn't slow anything in Italy. Their hopitals got flooded and they needed more drastic measures.

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    get you some Chinese propaganda:

    US admitted they had dead that were positive for corona postmortem

    means we have no idea when and who is our patient zero

    the guy from seattle was not our patient zero

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    Paid sick leave didn't slow anything in Italy. Their hopitals got flooded and they needed more drastic measures.
    And they're on paid sick leave.

    Understand?

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    And who told them to do that?
    Every news outlet has stressed the severity of this. People just don't care until it's too late.

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    [TWEET FROM MARCH 13th]
    White House Knew [in January] Coronavirus Would Be A 'Major Threat'

    https://www.npr.org/2020/03/12/81488...nse-fell-short

    DIAMOND: I think they are both trying to show that they're incredibly active and aggressive in public, but some of the decisions behind the scenes haven't always reflected the best judgment of career professionals. In the case of Alex Azar, he did go to the president in January. He did push past resistance from the president's political aides to warn the president the new coronavirus could be a major problem. There were aides around Trump - Kellyanne Conway had some skepticism at times that this was something that needed to be a presidential priority.

    But at the same time, Secretary Azar has not always given the president the worst-case scenario of what could happen. My understanding is he did not push to do aggressive additional testing in recent weeks, and that's partly because more testing might have led to more cases being discovered of coronavirus outbreak, and the president had made clear - the lower the numbers on coronavirus, the better for the president, the better for his potential reelection this fall.

    Meanwhile, Seema Verma, since being added to the team, has announced all kinds of actions that could be seen as cracking down on the problem - dispatching a team of investigators to Washington state, where there has been a major outbreak of corona virus, predominantly in local nursing homes. But I've talked to officials who say that Seema Verma, in an effort to show that she's cracking down, may actually be creating more problems by having her investigators demanding paperwork, demanding answers at a moment when these nursing home officials are just trying to provide basic patient care to people who have been infected by coronavirus.

    DIAMOND: About two weeks ago, my colleague Nancy Cook and I reported that the White House had soured on Alex Azar leading the coronavirus response. He was asked about it in congressional testimony because we broke the story while he was on Capitol Hill, waved it away by saying, you know, didn't trust anonymous sources in Politico. But by the end of the day, Mike Pence had replaced him. And by the next morning, there was a new coordinator brought in, Debbie Birx, to help run the response, too. That's what people saw in public.

    Behind the scenes, Azar and his team did know that he was at risk of being replaced, spent a fair amount of time just trying to shore up his standing, calling officials at the White House, on Capitol Hill, just trying to make sure that he didn't lose the job of running the coronavirus response. At that point, we were several weeks into fighting this thing. And in a working, functional administration, the amount of effort just to keep a job, just to fend off these internal fights, I don't know if that would be happening. Since Day 1, there were people trying to get him replaced as the leader of this effort. And Alex Azar also had to spend a lot of political capital fighting to keep this job at a time when we probably would want his efforts focused elsewhere.

    GROSS: Like on fighting the virus, not on fighting for his job...

    DIAMOND: Yes, on fighting the threat to the American people, not fighting who has which le.
    You think you are pointing out how effective Trump is being now.

    What you have actually done is pointed out how effective they should have already been, had it not been for Trumps autocratic management style. The buck stops... well he will blame anyone else. China, Democrats, and whatever official he chooses to throw under the bus to save himself this week.
    Last edited by RandomGuy; 03-13-2020 at 11:57 AM.

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    Every news outlet has stressed the severity of this. People just don't care until it's too late.
    You didn’t answer the question. Who told Americans to keep living life like this was no big deal?

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    Muh agenda needs to be pushed.
    Ouch, what a hole country.

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    Paid sick leave didn't slow anything in Italy. Their ho[s]pitals got flooded and they needed more drastic measures.
    They didn't do anything to contain the spread until it was too late. Paid leave couldn't do anything in that case.

    It could in the US, were it more widespread. Socialism FTW. Suck it.

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    You didn’t answer the question. Who told Americans to keep living life like this was no big deal?
    Your question is irrelevant to the reason people are living their lives normally.

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    You didn’t answer the question. Who told Americans to keep living life like this was no big deal?
    More people have died this year from the flu than the coronavirus

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    Your question is irrelevant to the reason people are living their lives normally.
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    Your question is irrelevant to the reason people are living their lives normally.
    A reason, but not the primary reason, or even a big one, to what I have read.

    The pathology is different, as it attacks the respiratory system directly. Lack of testing and vaccines have more of an effect at slowing transmission.

    Been in hospital with elderly father for the last few days, so if this hasn't been posted it should be:




    NUMBER OF ALL HOSPITALS IN THE U.S. IN 2017
    6,210
    NUMBER OF ALL HOSPITAL BEDS IN THE U.S. IN 2014
    909.2k
    OCCUPANCY RATE OF NONFEDERAL HOSPITALS IN THE U.S. IN 2015
    65.5%

    https://www.statista.com/topics/1074/hospitals/

    Setting aside the likelihood of the number of beds being less due to rural hospital implosion in the last few years:
    1-.655=.345

    .345*909,200= 313,775 beds available TOTAL in the USA. That is it. Less than one tenth of one percent of the population in the US.


    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ctors-covid-19

    Italy which is a few weeks ahead of us on that curve is now overwhelmed. Their doctors are literally having to choose who to treat and who not to, because they cannot treat everybody. They have roughly the same rate as the US (77% occupancy on roughly the same beds per capita total. by latest stats-2013)

    The US, as it is much larger geographically, will have a harder time managing that capacity. A bed in Oregon, will do no good to someone in Louisiana. Our slack is going to be even worse than it seems due to this factor.

    Because of the fatal delay by the Trump administration to implement widespread testing that, even now, isn't wide enough to detect cases, that spread has been fast, and is still almost certainly ongoing.

    We are on the same curve as italy, and for that matter Iran, whose mass graves can be seen from space.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-victims.html

    ... and Trumps response:

    Put his real-estate developer son-in-law, who failed at everything else, up to, and including middle-east peace, in charge.

    His disastrous visit to the CDC where he did worse than throw paper towels, and his pathetic, incomplete, confusing, and moronic speech the other day have been judged by the markets, which tanked after he failed to be either truthful or decisive/effective.

    He is going to, again, give a speech today. Based on his pattern, it will also be neither truthful, nor effective. Trump has finally met a crisis he cannot lie his way out of, and it shows.
    Flatten the curve you stupid mother er.

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    I still ain't seeing throngs of Americans in the street on CNN clamoring for a test.

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    Muh agenda needs to be pushed.
    [tweets deflecting blame on China to semen shield for Trump]

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    Flatten the curve you stupid mother er.
    Thanks for your irrelevant response.

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    I still ain't seeing throngs of Americans in the street on CNN clamoring for a test.
    You aren't seeing large gatherings of people on the streets in a deadly pandemic and this confuses you. okaaaay.

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