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    Because they didn't fail.
    Respectfully disagree.

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    They failed their promise. Yes. Its a fact
    Link to an actual promise?

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    Respectfully disagree.
    Respectfully prove the actual promise from the drugmakers, not your assumption.

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    They failed their promise. Yes. Its a fact
    They promised to be 100%?

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    Some vaccines have failed to protect the vaccinated, there are many breakthrough infections and deaths of vaccinated people. However the odds of dying once vaccinated are significantly lower than the odds of dying if you aren't, given that neither group is infected at the time and both groups have the same exposure rate after.

    If anyone is taking hater's word as reason to avoid getting vaccinated, they probably are going to die anyhow by using a hairdryer in the shower.


    True

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    They promised to be 100%?
    They promised 95%

    They are at 40% now

    Winnning

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    They promised 95%

    They are at 40% now

    Winnning
    Ah, you just made up a promise in your mind.

    Typical.

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    Sorry 91%

    From pfizer

    Analysis of 927 confirmed symptomatic cases of COVID-19 demonstrates BNT162b2 is highly effective with 91.3% vaccine efficacy observed against COVID-19, measured seven days through up to six months after the second doseVaccine was 100% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and 95.3% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Food and Drug AdministrationVaccine was 100% effective in preventing COVID-19 cases in South Africa, where the B.1.351 lineage is prevalent

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    Sorry 91%

    From pfizer

    Analysis of 927 confirmed symptomatic cases of COVID-19 demonstrates BNT162b2 is highly effective with 91.3% vaccine efficacy observed against COVID-19, measured seven days through up to six months after the second doseVaccine was 100% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and 95.3% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Food and Drug AdministrationVaccine was 100% effective in preventing COVID-19 cases in South Africa, where the B.1.351 lineage is prevalent
    No promise there.

    Do you know what a promise is, hater?

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    my bad they did qctually promise 95%

    Called it

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    Even if the vaccine only decreased your odds of dying by 10% they'd be well worth the effort.

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    Even if the vaccine only decreased your odds of dying by 10% they'd be well worth the effort.
    Dont disagree. But would it be worth mandate and unlimited boosters??




    No

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    my bad they did qctually promise 95%

    Called it
    damn you're dumb

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    my bad they did qctually promise 95%

    Called it
    Clinical trial results aren't promises of future performance.

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    Dont disagree. But would it be worth mandate and unlimited boosters??




    No
    vs dying? Sure.

    If you want to sign a hospital waiver that says you die at home without treatment from paid medical professionals, that's ok. Let the vaccinated have the medical care since they obviously value their life enough to risk the vaccine.

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    vs dying? Sure.
    2% are dying

    Vax those and almost noone will die

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    even DMC gets to take a in hater's mouth

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    2% are dying

    Vax those and almost noone will die
    You cannot go back in time to find those 2%.

    You don't know who those 2% will be moving forward. 2% is 2x the average yearly death rate in the US. We spend billions to lower that number, surely one cause death that exceeds all other causes combined is worth the extra effort.

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    You cannot go back in time to find those 2%.

    You don't know who those 2% will be moving forward. 2% is 2x the average yearly death rate in the US. We spend billions to lower that number, surely one cause death that exceeds all other causes combined is worth the extra effort.
    Sure you can. 90% of those 2% are over 65 or sick. Sure you can find those. Easily.

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    Clinical trial results aren't promises of future performance.

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    Sure you can. 90% of those 2% are over 65 or sick. Sure you can find those. Easily.
    So you think anyone over 65 should be forced to be vaccinated? By "sick" do you mean comorbidities? I'd venture a guess that half those who post here have some known ailment they are getting treatment for. Should they all be forced to be vaccinated? What if you find out next week you have type II but you missed your opportunity to be vaccinated?

    See where this goes? The medical system isn't there to protect the lifestyle of the 30 year old healthy male. It's supposed to protect the population.

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    It's true though. You can laugh at it all you want. Those results aren't money back guarantees. If you don't trust the study or the FDA, that's understandable, but no trial results guarantee the same performance in the field. This is why drug companies get sued and change buffers and such all the time.

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    So you think anyone over 65 should be forced to be vaccinated? By "sick" do you mean comorbidities? I'd venture a guess that half those who post here have some known ailment they are getting treatment for. Should they all be forced to be vaccinated? What if you find out next week you have type II but you missed your opportunity to be vaccinated?

    See where this goes? The medical system isn't there to protect the lifestyle of the 30 year old healthy male. It's supposed to protect the population.
    your whole argument is that there might be some ppl with comorbidies that they are not aware.of thus we need to vax everyone

    Disagree. Those special cases are probable.less rare than vax.breakthroughs

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    Generally incurable and ongoing, chronic diseases affect approximately 133 million Americans, representing more than 40% of the total population of this country. projected to grow to an estimated 157 million, with 81 million having multiple conditions.

    Is this the 2% you want vaccinated?

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    It's true though. You can laugh at it all you want. Those results aren't money back guarantees. If you don't trust the study or the FDA, that's understandable, but no trial results guarantee the same performance in the field. This is why drug companies get sued and change buffers and such all the time.
    Guy, fellows, not in front of our enemies.

    It looks bad.

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